Keith Jones?

[steagles]

will this end well?

no.


will it be fun?

also no.


does anyone care?

still no.


**** it. cut em up.

[SportsNutMike]

I dunno. I don't hate the Keith Jones move....Jones has a unique perspective of the league an analyst point of view. Plus he's been critical of the Flyers on TV and on radio....so I don't think he's going into this with any bias. He may have more input then we'll know.

The President title has always just been a figure head position. More onus is on Briere and team.....the team goes as he goes....

[steagles]

The President title has always just been a figure head position. More onus is on Briere and team.....the team goes as he goes....

dave dombrowski is the team president of the phillies. has he made a difference?

daryl morey is the team president of the sixers. has he made a difference?



i understand why you might see this as a figurehead position, but in healthy organizations, it's a very real position. no offense to keith jones, but the flyers should not be hiring a TV commentator who has never worked in a front office to fill this position. it's a ******* decision by a ******* organization.


but maybe it'll work out. who knows.

[lbz88]

I'll wait to make a decision and give him a chance to prove he can move the team forward.

[SportsNutMike]

Did Dombroski or Morey play the game most of their lives? Keith Jones feels a little different when it comes to the Operations from the other two.

Dombrowski is running a team built for possibly sustaining runs in the future....questioning if they needed Trea Turner over improving the rotation....but the team definitely should be good for the near future.

Morey is running that team into the ground....they may not have a 1st round pick til possibly, what, 2028 depending on draft position. No real cap space to bring in better younger talent. Hasn't really improved the Sixers - I think the NBA has caught up to Morey and how he handles a roster.

Jones/Briere - if they develop a plan and draft picks/prospects develop correctly they could have something....Jonesy wasn't wrong when he said they have to strengthen the backend of the team as well as solidify down the middle....they're doing the right thing by letting the young guys play. Briere has a tall task of getting out of Fletcher's mess (little cap space/limited draft picks). It'll be interesting to see if they can pull off a
rebuild.

I want all the Philly teams to succeed....just trying to think positive no matter who's in charge right now.

[steagles]

Morey is running that team into the ground....they may not have a 1st round pick til possibly, what, 2028 depending on draft position. No real cap space to bring in better younger talent. Hasn't really improved the Sixers - I think the NBA has caught up to Morey and how he handles a roster.

morey drafted tyrese maxey, which is the single biggest value added transaction that has happened for this franchise in the last decade (since drafting embiid in 2014).

morey got here after we dumped jimmy butler in the trash.
he got here after we burned 300 ****ing million ****ing dollars on horford and tharris.
he got here after whatever the **** markelle fultz was.
he got here after we passed on mikal bridges and shai gilgeous alexander and michael porter jr, to take zhaire smith (who?).


i don't know what you want/expect from morey, but he's not the one who ****ed the sixers.

[steagles]

Jones/Briere - if they develop a plan and draft picks/prospects develop correctly they could have something....Jonesy wasn't wrong when he said they have to strengthen the backend of the team as well as solidify down the middle....they're doing the right thing by letting the young guys play. Briere has a tall task of getting out of Fletcher's mess (little cap space/limited draft picks). It'll be interesting to see if they can pull off a
rebuild.

there is a certain someone whose 10 year contract happens to expire this summer.

it is a terrible idea for the flyers to sign him, but i will still pop for it if they make it happen.

[LLMunchie619]

I dont know where to put this, but the Flyers just traded Provorov to a division rival in Columbus. Three team trade and it appears that we got Cal Peterson and Sean Walker from the kings along with other picks and prospects. There better be a first somewhere in here....

[LLMunchie619]

Carter Hart is apparently on the way out too....

[CasperX22]

Danny Briere providing some hope. That's a damn good 1st trade. It's not going to fix years of negligence, but it's a good start.

[steagles]

I dont know where to put this

at this point, i just start a new thread anytime there's something remotely interesting to talk about.

there's no reason to be stingy with so few people coming back to post here anymore.

[steagles]

Danny Briere providing some hope. That's a damn good 1st trade. It's not going to fix years of negligence, but it's a good start.

peterson is a bad backup goalie with a 5MM cap hit for the next two years. oof.
walker is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman.

grans is reasonably interesting.

the 22nd overall pick is a fine asset.

the 54th pick is...an easily convertible commodity.



it's alot better than the ghost trade, i'll give briere that much, but this thing looks like the start of another 5 year plan.

[steagles]

here's a pre-draft scouting report on grans:

Grans has a strong lower body and good balance, this helps him to play a physical game along the boards and clear the front of the net. He will be even better in these aspects as he continues to get stronger and mature. Grans speed in both directions is above average, but he is not a burner. His acceleration is also decent. This allows him to keep up with the play.

he usually makes the safe, solid play to keep the puck moving and maintain possession
[...]
Grans is not the type of player that makes a lot of creative plays that will lead to scoring opportunities for teammates at the next level. He has the vision and passing skill to make the pass if it is there, but he isn’t going to take chances to create the opportunity

Grans could grow into a defender who can play big minutes at the NHL level but does not really have the offensive talent to be a premier defender. Rather he could be a steady complement to a team’s number one defenceman if he reaches his potential

[CasperX22]

peterson is a bad backup goalie with a 5MM cap hit for the next two years. oof.
walker is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman.

grans is reasonably interesting.

the 22nd overall pick is a fine asset.

the 54th pick is...an easily convertible commodity.



it's alot better than the ghost trade, i'll give briere that much, but this thing looks like the start of another 5 year plan.

I'm not exactly sure what you thought the Flyers were going to get for Provorov or what plan the Flyers should take other than a full rebuild. Fletcher ran this franchise so far into the ground in such a short period of time that they have to start over.

Provorov has been barely passable as a top 4 damn in each of the last 2 years with a bloated cap hit relative to his production in a flat cap world. This is a pretty impressive return given the circumstances.

Petersen is whatever. The Flyers aren't going to be any good in the next 2 years anyway. Worst case you're carrying around 5 mil in dead cap you weren't using anyway. Best case he finds his form from a couple years ago and he becomes a tradable asset.

Walker is a perfectly reasonable bottom 3 defender on a reasonable deal. Easy deadline trade candidate given teams are always looking for right shot defenders at the deadline.

Grans is fine. Worth taking a flier on.

The picks are what are absolutely needed. You could take out the rest of the deal and I would've been perfectly fine with this. Granted the Flyers need to make the right picks and it remains to be seen how Briere does on that front, but he got really good value in his 1st deal