Is Ohtani a must sign?

[PJO34]

The Yankees will have a lot of money coming off the books at the end of the year. We need to put all that money into signing Ohtani.

Donaldson $23000000
Severino $10000000
Montas $750000
IKF $600000
Bader $5200000
Peralta $3350000

Of that group, only Peralta should be resigned.

I would go as high as $60,000,000 a year and it would be a bargain. A slugger like Ohtani would get at least $35,000,000. A pitcher like Ohtani would get at least $40,000,000. At $60,000,000, we would be getting at least a $15,000,000 discount and we would get a spare roster spot.

We have $51,700,000 coming off the books and could get the rest by trading Torres for spects.

Volpe goes to second.
Peraza goes to SS.
DJ goes to third.
Schmidt takes over for Montes.
Ohtani takes over for Severino.
Dom takes over for Bader.
Judge can play center and left on days when Ohtani plays outfield.
Stanton can play left to allow Ohtani to DH.

Having Ohtani would be an incentive to Murikama when he us posted.

[ShadyOne]

No…

Because if we do, we lose the DH. Which we frequently use to keep guys from having to play the field, and get some rest

Also, remember that getting him requires an extra starter to fill in the gaps, to keep everyone else on a close to normal schedule, as he pitches every 6 days

[goingfor28]

Pass

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[drt1010]

Well....What kind of pitcher could you grab for $30M per?
What type of DH could you get for $30M?

I like him, but at those numbers... pass. As Shady mentioned you also clog the DH spot.

I would consider resigning Sevy, Montas, Bader and Peralta. All depends on health and performance this season.

[johnnyi]

Hard Pass on Ohtani.

[EnochRoot]

LOL hell yes you sign Ohtani, and if it came down to it, you pay Stanton to sit on the bench until he agrees to a trade.

[johnny ny]

hal is not going a penny over the luxury tax high threshold and to think ohtani will cost over 50 million a year to some delusional team.. who will sign him for mainly his arm..huge risk for signing a long term deal for a pitcher.....

[Kinkotheclown]

With that deal, you are basically slapping Judge in the face. I get that he pitches and hits but I still don't think he's worth that. I don't think he's worth 10 mil per, more than Judge and no way is he worth 20 more.
If he pitched and played a good, 1B on his off days? Yes.


If they could move Stanton? I would test the waters but not for over 50 mil

[johnnyi]

I'd rather not commit to more than half a billion for an overhyped player that will probably blow his arm out at some point and be a DH for 12 years, when he's not on the IL. Think about it. He's a great hitter who's going to get a 12 year deal because of his current age and then you would plan to pay him a double salary because he pitches and you have to hope he holds up for 12 years as a pitcher. On top of that, he will wreck your rotation trying to accommodate his pitching desire of only once every 6 days, so he will actually weaken your pitching staff by forcing you to use a sixth best pitcher in an era where it is hard to keep 5 pitchers healthy. He will also cost the Yankees the use of Stanton who is paid a lot of money as well, so his $60 million salary is more like $90 million plus the luxury tax on that and it's more like $150 million. I know it's not our money, but at those numbers on a 12 year contract are insane. Hard, hard pass.

[Kinkotheclown]

I'd rather not commit to more than half a billion for an overhyped player that will probably blow his arm out at some point and be a DH for 12 years, when he's not on the IL. Think about it. He's a great hitter who's going to get a 12 year deal because of his current age and then you would plan to pay him a double salary because he pitches and you have to hope he holds up for 12 years as a pitcher. On top of that, he will wreck your rotation trying to accommodate his pitching desire of only once every 6 days, so he will actually weaken your pitching staff by forcing you to use a sixth best pitcher in an era where it is hard to keep 5 pitchers healthy. He will also cost the Yankees the use of Stanton who is paid a lot of money as well, so his $60 million salary is more like $90 million plus the luxury tax on that and it's more like $150 million. I know it's not our money, but at those numbers on a 12 year contract are insane. Hard, hard pass.

[EnochRoot]

With that deal, you are basically slapping Judge in the face. I get that he pitches and hits but I still don't think he's worth that. I don't think he's worth 10 mil per, more than Judge and no way is he worth 20 more.
If he pitched and played a good, 1B on his off days? Yes.


If they could move Stanton? I would test the waters but not for over 50 mil

So you’d rather the Yankees take an approach to free agency with a mindset of not offending Aaron Judge?

The money is irrelevant, especially considering the team’s recent valuation increase of 18% from last year to $7.1 billion (the Dodgers are 2nd at around $5b).

Ohtani is the best player in baseball. You want those types of players, regardless of the feelings of your right fielder.

[drt1010]

So you’d rather the Yankees take an approach to free agency with a mindset of not offending Aaron Judge?

The money is irrelevant, especially considering the team’s recent valuation increase of 18% from last year to $7.1 billion (the Dodgers are 2nd at around $5b).

Ohtani is the best player in baseball. You want those types of players, regardless of the feelings of your right fielder.

....and Judge is chopped liver? He is the leader and captain of the team. His thoughts and feelings matter. Imo Judge would have no issue welcoming Ohtani. He wants to win.

If memory serves he was the AL MVP and led the world in almost every offensive category last season.

2017 AL Rookie of the Year
2019 Wilson Def Player
2021 All-MLB Team 1
2022 All-MLB Team 1
2022 AL Hank Aaron Award
2022 Major League Player of the Year
2022 AL MVP

and that my friend is just the tip of the iceberg! He's a 3X silver slugger winner, Leader in overall WAR and Offensive WAR, the list is exhaustive.

[Chapin78]

I'm a little surprised at some of the responses. Most of us here are always saying to sign the best players and then we talk about how we missed on some players. Bottom line for me is when signing a player is he going to make the team better. On the business side the club looks at what is the ROI for this player.

Doc mentioned all of the positives in the player. I can't think of anyone other than Aaron James Judge that can equal or give Ohtani a run for his money when it comes to hitting. On top of that he is also an ELITE pitcher. The question to ask is do you move around your roster for a player of this caliber to come in? Answer to that is yes BTW. Who would you rather DH? If you want a round robin of DH to give guys a slight break just give them the entire day off and use them off of the bench. I rather the production from Ohtani batting.

I would absolutely give him a 50MM a year contract and not look back. This leads into the ROI...He is the first MLB player with 4 million Instagram follower and currently at 5 million. Think about the international dollars this dude could bring in.

Compared to the salaries of Rendon, Correa, Turner, Machado, Bogarts, Devers, etc he would probably net a higher contract then them and then you add in the pitching. Look at Scherzer, Cole, Verlander, Strasburg, Degrom contracts he would net a higher contract than those players as well.

I would give Ohtani a contract.

[Scottish]

So you’d rather the Yankees take an approach to free agency with a mindset of not offending Aaron Judge?

The money is irrelevant, especially considering the team’s recent valuation increase of 18% from last year to $7.1 billion (the Dodgers are 2nd at around $5b).

Ohtani is the best player in baseball. You want those types of players, regardless of the feelings of your right fielder.

€60m a year a Bargin? The works is nuts. Let him go to the Mets. I’d sign Bader to an extension now. He’s gonna rock this year.

[Kinkotheclown]

So you’d rather the Yankees take an approach to free agency with a mindset of not offending Aaron Judge?

The money is irrelevant, especially considering the team’s recent valuation increase of 18% from last year to $7.1 billion (the Dodgers are 2nd at around $5b).

Ohtani is the best player in baseball. You want those types of players, regardless of the feelings of your right fielder.

I 100% disagree with that statement . That is my honest opinion. I think he is an exceptional good pitcher and an exceptional hitter.
He is the most unique player. I do not believe he is the best. I feel that to be the best, you need to be the best at your position and that does not include DH. There are a quite a few players I would take over him.

Trout is still the best in the game. Given the choice of one of those two in their prime, I will choose trout every time.

I do agree that they shouldn't make deals contingent on Judge's feelings but I do think they need to tread respectfully. By all reports, he took less than he could have to play for the Yankees. I do think that turning around and give someone 50% more is a slap in the face.
Ohtani for 40-45? Ok. 50-60? No.