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  1. #1036
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    If that happens, I give up on this team.

    The thing that makes the most sense, is to see what we have with Peraza. Give him the SS spot outright. If he looks like heís legit, then all you need to figure out is what youíre doing with Torres. IMO you go with the better defender at SS, assuming he at least is respectable offensively
    Why canít you give Volpe the SS job outright? He has certainly deserved it more IMHO.

    The lineup needs a shot of energy and Volpe is the one who can provide that. He already has good pitch selection and when on base he is a disruption towards the pitcher and catcher. Some act like Volpe is a crummy SS. Again, the lineup needs new exciting blood! Iíll take the offense ANY DAY!

    So you would take Ozzie Smith for 10 years or Derek Jeter for 10 years at SS?

    I think Peraza would hit better than Ozzie Smith but you might get more out of Volpe with overall. I think he would help win more games playing SS than Peraza IMO.

    But i want both in there so iíd take Peraza at SS and Volpe at 2b.

    i also donít want one of them sitting and not getting opportunity either. So if they decide to go with Peraza at SS then i hope they send Volpe to AAA because JD, Torres and DJ are not going anywhere!
    Last edited by rrzubnyy; 03-23-2023 at 07:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I'm a little surprised that no one is talking about Cabrera or how well he has played this spring. He started games at every position except pitcher and catcher. He's leading the team of the guys left in hits, HR, and RBI and is hitting .306.
    This kid was on pace for a 5war season over a full season last yr. I won't be surprised if he puts up those kinda numbers again. That is an incredibly valuable player for us.

    I know everything is Volpe vs Peraza but Cabrera is looking like he's going to be a huge piece of this team this yr
    I donít think he will be like a Bernie Williams. I think he will be a great bench player and obviously a good player to have in case of injury. I just think over 500 at bats he would be exposed a little with the bat. He is no doubt a shot of energy but he should only play 3 or 4 games a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
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    All the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    My thinking is if they aren't going to use Peraza at SS now then they should and should have been traded. Volpes bat give him the ability to play any position, Peraza would be fine at 2nd or 3rd but if your not playing him at SS, your not getting the most out of him.

    If the future up the middle is Volpe and Peraza as Hal has said many times, then they need to do that to start the season. Peraza hit /330 for 3 months in triple A and has absolutely zero left to prove in AAA. He hit 306 and played great defense when he was called up. Very similar sample size, he's a notoriously slow starter in spring.

    If there is a real competition at SS, Volpe has won no question. You told this kid if he played well enough he could make the team. At this point he has Judge and Rizzo pushing for him, you can't send him down. He's everything you can ask for from a prospect. If Peraza wasn't on the team I would be pushing for Volpe at SS.

    If you don't use them the best way, move him for something we need. Burnes is in his walk yr and isn't resigning with the Brewers after that arbitration disaster. For 1yr of Burnes , Peraza plus isn't a bad return. Then they are clear to resign Torres for 8yr200m

    Cashman is betting his legacy on this group of prospects and they are already messing with one of the better ones were going to see.
    Day, they would trade Torres before Peraza. iíd trade Torres and put Volpe at 2b with Peraza at SS. Then you have DJ and Cabrera for utility. I guess IKF stays too? Or go with extra pitching?
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    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
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    When is the big meeting to decide all of this?

    Is it tomorrow or next week?

    Thur is Game 1 so they need to get down to business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    When is the big meeting to decide all of this?

    Is it tomorrow or next week?

    Thur is Game 1 so they need to get down to business.
    Initially, according to Yankees PR it was today or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    From what Iíve seen spoken about them here, from the bit of research Iíve done, and the limited ďeye testĒ Iíve seen of both, Iíd say Peraza has the edge. Thatís not to say that Volpe canít do the job at SS

    Iím not debating the bat vs bat aspect. But I think Peraza will hit at an acceptable level, at worst. And as I see it that way, I see zero reasons to move him off short.

    Thatís why I say start him right away. Give him some time, see how it develops. Also gives a good look at Cabrera. Both of them handle business, makes it an easy decision on Torres. Then its Volpe time
    Volpe would get more money in the future as a SS.

    Yankees would want Volpe at SS for the business side IMO. Peraza is t going to command a 10/300 contract. Iím not Volpe will either but i feel he is the one who picks up the C when Judge retires.
    My Top 10 Beatles songs

    1. I am the Walrus
    2. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
    3. I Me Mine
    4. A Day in the Life
    5. Helter Skelter
    6. Let it Be
    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
    8. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
    9. Golden Slumbers
    10. Eleanor Rigby

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Why canít you give Volpe the SS job outright? He has certainly deserved it more IMHO.

    The lineup needs a shot of energy and Volpe is the one who can provide that. He already has good pitch selection and when on base he is a disruption towards the pitcher and catcher. Some act like Volpe is a crummy SS. Again, the lineup needs new exciting blood! Iíll take the offense ANY DAY!

    So you would take Ozzie Smith for 10 years or Derek Jeter for 10 years at SS?

    I think Peraza would hit better than Ozzie Smith but you might get more out of Volpe with overall. I think he would help win more games playing SS than Peraza IMO.

    But i want both in there so iíd take Peraza at SS and Volpe at 2b.

    i also donít want one of them sitting and not getting opportunity either. So if they decide to go with Peraza at SS then i hope they send Volpe to AAA because JD, Torres and DJ are not going anywhere!
    How about having both. In which case, the better fielder plays SS

    Thatís what I actually want. So, Iíd let Peraza have a crack at it, and then if thatís settled, then Volpe takes 2nd

    If they are holding those spots down, then you spend big on the corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I think he's making a case for the starting LF job and utility.


    Even I have to admit, peraza hasn't looked great at the plate the last couple weeks. I don't think you send him down and I thin he can turn it around but Volpe and Cabrera have been so good, it's made him look worse by comparison
    Hicks will get the job. But Cabrera will play a lot.
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    3. I Me Mine
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    5. Helter Skelter
    6. Let it Be
    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
    8. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
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    sorry for posting a lot. Iím at bowling in my league and just reading the forums, watching the Lightning, March Madness on the other TV and drinking my one Yuengling.
    My Top 10 Beatles songs

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    3. I Me Mine
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    5. Helter Skelter
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    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
    8. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
    9. Golden Slumbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Day, they would trade Torres before Peraza. iíd trade Torres and put Volpe at 2b with Peraza at SS. Then you have DJ and Cabrera for utility. I guess IKF stays too? Or go with extra pitching?
    The bolded is exactly what a group of us has been saying since ST started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Volpe would get more money in the future as a SS.

    Yankees would want Volpe at SS for the business side IMO. Peraza is t going to command a 10/300 contract. Iím not Volpe will either but i feel he is the one who picks up the C when Judge retires.
    You're getting way ahead of yourself here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    sorry for posting a lot. Iím at bowling in my league and just reading the forums, watching the Lightning, March Madness on the other TV and drinking my one Yuengling.

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    [QUOTE=rrzubnyy;34629507]Day, they would trade Torres before Peraza. iíd trade Torres and put Volpe at 2b with Peraza at SS. Then you have DJ and Cabrera for utility. I guess IKF stays too? Or go with extra pitching?[/QUOTe

    I don't know that's the case, but you would hope. Then again this is Cashman were talking about. they told volpe if he had a good spring he would make the team, be belongs on this roster

    If they go with Volpe day 1 at SS he won't give that job back for a long time, IMO which is fine he's a very good player.

    Peraza still has the case he's done it already in real games.. Peraza is Correa good defensively and as we saw last yr he can hit pretty well. Peraza is an elite, elite defender at SS. If you don't play him there you aren't getting max value for him,

    Volpe bat and toolset profile the same at 2nd,3rd, and SS, Peraza's value goes way down at any other position

    If you aren't going to use Peraza you need to trade him for something else we need. If Peraza isn't the starter that fine, but don't let the talent waste away in AAA. Corbin Burns is in the last yr of his deal and he is going to be treated at some point. For 1yr A Peraza package could make a lot of sense. So would Torres plus

    The best version of this team has both Vikoe and Peraza on it, We have e excess value at those position and they need to use all of it to make us better this yr and beyond
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