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  1. #16
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    FYi,
    https://www.truebluela.com/2016/2/12...ers-2-4-months

    Montas had his first rib removed in 2016. He had TOS, which is what Matt Harvey had and many others.
    That injury is often the result of a rotator cuff or other shoulder injury, trauma. The side effects of that surgery can basically be the same issues you started with or other shoulder, nerve, structural or strength problems (a ton of other stuff but not applicable to the shoulder)

    So if surgery is the case for him, I say if because it's not been reported yet. I trust your info Day but it's not public info yet.
    If this is the case, Montas was shut down in 2016 for a shoulder issue. Then was banned in 2019 for PEDs, then in 2020 was shut down for his back. Then 2022 for his shoulder. Then 2022 again for his shoulder.

    Even if he doesn't need surgery, this was such an abhorrently bad idea.
    If he does need it, **** Cashman and his crying about the As not being honest. You traded for a guy who just came off the IL because of a shoulder problem. If you look at his history, what part of this was wroth it?



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    Don't really understand why this hasn't been reported yet if true. I'd think someone would have dropped the news by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    Don't really understand why this hasn't been reported yet if true. I'd think someone would have dropped the news by now.
    Yeah, I'm starting to wonder myself. I got the message yesterday about 9 AM. Seems it would have been more public by now.

    I could also see why Cashman my be trying to keep it quiet until they absolutely have to announcement.

    Last yr was absolutely horrible for Cashman and the deals he made. Since the Gallo deal, the only good trade he's made was Trevino. Gallo, IKF/JD, Montas, Effross and even Benny.

    Its no wonder they brought in Sabean and Minaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Brutally bad.
    It isn't just pitchers. Gallo was terrible. Stanton while not horrible is a big hinderance in the lineup, The "JD, Rortvedt, IKF" is looking abysmal

    I just hope they don't freak out and trade the farm to get another arm.
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    Nah, enough for April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    Don't really understand why this hasn't been reported yet if true. I'd think someone would have dropped the news by now.
    Did Day get fleeced again?

    Day, your sources are getting snookered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Yanks shouldn't get anything back. The trade was stupid then and still is.

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    Yep, it was well known that Montas had a shoulder issue. Even if the A's withheld info about how bad it was the Yankees are idiot for trading for someone and relying on him because they knew the he had a bum shoulder to begin with.

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    The montas trade respresents everything that is stupid about Cashman and his dumpster diving. Kluber, Paxton, Tallion, Montas are his four horsemen of the apocalypse lol. He was only forced to trade for Montas because he didn't value getting any free agent pitching in the offseason. He passed on Rodon, Gausman, Verlander, Ray, etc. because he had to have IKF and JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    We were just told Montas is getting shoulder surgery and will miss the entire season...****

    This will go down as Twatmans worst trade in recent memory.

    Last yr's trade deadline was awful. Montas hurt, then surgery. Benny missed most of his time here and Effross is out with TJS

    Yup, you were correct. They held back the Info until players officially reported and couldn’t hide it anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLES3658 View Post
    Yep, it was well known that Montas had a shoulder issue. Even if the A's withheld info about how bad it was the Yankees are idiot for trading for someone and relying on him because they knew the he had a bum shoulder to begin with.
    Cashman said yesterday that Montas had a clean bill of health at the trade.

    LMAO….EVERYONE knew he didn’t have a good clean bill of health! Why does he lie or say those idiotic comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Cashman said yesterday that Montas had a clean bill of health at the trade.

    LMAO….EVERYONE knew he didn’t have a good clean bill of health! Why does he lie or say those idiotic comments?
    Because he has no consequences and we as fans still watch the team.



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    Have to give Kudos to Dayne on this one. He reported it to us before anyone in the media got a hold of it. Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    Have to give Kudos to Dayne on this one. He reported it to us before anyone in the media got a hold of it. Great job!
    Thanks, but the credit goes to NyynewTV, not me. I just posted what we were told
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Thanks, but the credit goes to NyynewTV, not me. I just posted what we were told
    I tip my cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Because he has no consequences and we as fans still watch the team.
    I’m starting to not like Cashman anymore. He is a smart baseball guy but makes a lot of boneheaded decisions or takes chances on hoping he can say, I told you so.

    He will sign or trade for an old veteran who used to be very good and hopes that player will lose one in the seats in Oct in the late innings of a tied game. And during the regular season he just wants that player to perform at 75% of his career highs as he tries to squeeze one more drip. In most cases there is nothing left. Cashman’s main problem is that he goes to the same well too much. It is dry!
    My Top 10 Beatles songs

    1. I am the Walrus
    2. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
    3. I Me Mine
    4. A Day in the Life
    5. Helter Skelter
    6. Let it Be
    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
    8. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
    9. Golden Slumbers
    10. Eleanor Rigby

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    I’m starting to not like Cashman anymore. He is a smart baseball guy but makes a lot of boneheaded decisions or takes chances on hoping he can say, I told you so.

    He will sign or trade for an old veteran who used to be very good and hopes that player will lose one in the seats in Oct in the late innings of a tied game. And during the regular season he just wants that player to perform at 75% of his career highs as he tries to squeeze one more drip. In most cases there is nothing left. Cashman’s main problem is that he goes to the same well too much. It is dry!
    I think the Sauron express is full. You may have to ride in the "strap hanger" car.



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