Teacher Salaries

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Such a childish argument.

[Brewersfan255]

Such a childish argument.

“It’s so disgusting seeing people talk about a profession they know nothing about”

None of you people know what it’s like to be a cop but you sure have a lot of judgments about it


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Thank you for further proving my point, you dunce.

[metswon69]

“It’s so disgusting seeing people talk about a profession they know nothing about”

None of you people know what it’s like to be a cop but you sure have a lot of judgments about it


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Yet you're on board with teachers making less money because? What profession attracts more qualified workers when you lower salaries? De-emphasizing education is not the answer, especially in states where graduation rates are lower than the national average.

[Brewersfan255]

Yet you're on board with teachers making less money because? What profession attracts more qualified workers when you lower salaries? De-emphasizing education is not the answer, especially in states where graduation rates are lower than the national average.

Nah I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in a lot of left wing posters in here.

YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE BEING A TEACHER!!! While attacking cops as a profession without ever being in their shoes

It’s hypocrisy and it’s hilarious


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[natepro]

Nah I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in a lot of left wing posters in here.

YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE BEING A TEACHER!!! While attacking cops as a profession without ever being in their shoes

It’s hypocrisy and it’s hilarious


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Out of curiosity, what do you think it is that cops would experience that would make them so likely to harass and beat and shoot minorities at a significantly higher rate? And why does this make it forgivable?

[MRSpock]

we know without a doubt the police reforming themselves doesn't work either. So what now?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oney-community

example of defunding/reallocation in Austin.

Im more interested in police accountability. So bad cops actually get canned. Making a federal law that requires body cams and provides funding for small towns and cities to get the technical support necessary to make sure officers are kept accountable.

But that article doesnt show anything to sugfest defunding the police has actually worked anywhere.

[natepro]

Im more interested in police accountability. So bad cops actually get canned. Making a federal law that requires body cams and provides funding for small towns and cities to get the technical support necessary to make sure officers are kept accountable.

But that article doesnt show anything to sugfest defunding the police has actually worked anywhere.

The body cameras clearly aren't stopping police from killing people.

[MRSpock]

Proof of what? That higher pay generally leads to better, more productive employees?

Yes. This is a highly debated topic in econ. Its hard to isolate a worjers pay with productivity because there are many factors involved in productivity.

But you can find studies that go either way. And considering in teaching you already have educated workers, who despite the "bad pay" continue to enter the profession , youd likely have to raise the pay by alot to get a decent change.

Money would be better spent, toward better facilities, computer equipment, books and after school activities.

How much would you need to go for a GE degree instead of law?

[MRSpock]

Yet you're on board with teachers making less money because? What profession attracts more qualified workers when you lower salaries? De-emphasizing education is not the answer, especially in states where graduation rates are lower than the national average.

This is what drives me crazy. Because teachers. Costantly fight against changes proven to work based on the data we have. Things like block periods or standardized testing because they want their daily free period. Pushing the "bad test taker" myth for years (i still hear this repeated).

Teachers unions fight for teachers. Not students.

Teaching doesnt work like a normal market because it is state funded, with very little in the private sector. Ill gladly accept higher salaries for teachers that earn it. But i want accountability though.

[MRSpock]

The body cameras clearly aren't stopping police from killing people.

The lack of police isnt stopping the increase of people killing people.

[MRSpock]

And i dont buy self reported hours worked by teachers. 70+ hours? Yeah right. 54 average?

People lie when they self report their hours. Or at least they fool themselves. And not just teachers. There was a study just a few years ago on this where it showed people over report their hours by like 10 when asked.

I know a PE teacher, a counselor and a teacher that teaches at risk youth. None of them work 50+ hours. I just dont buy that claim.

[natepro]

The lack of police isnt stopping the increase of people killing people.

There is a long list of things that we know lowers crime rates that doesn't involve more police, or ineffectual methods of stopping them from beating and killing people with impunity.

[dbroncos78087]

And i dont buy self reported hours worked by teachers. 70+ hours? Yeah right. 54 average?

People lie when they self report their hours. Or at least they fool themselves. And not just teachers. There was a study just a few years ago on this where it showed people over report their hours by like 10 when asked.

I know a PE teacher, a counselor and a teacher that teaches at risk youth. None of them work 50+ hours. I just dont buy that claim.

54...that doesn't strike you as extremely high? That is nearly two additional work days a week than most other jobs.

[dbroncsinmo]

And i dont buy self reported hours worked by teachers. 70+ hours? Yeah right. 54 average?

People lie when they self report their hours. Or at least they fool themselves. And not just teachers. There was a study just a few years ago on this where it showed people over report their hours by like 10 when asked.

I know a PE teacher, a counselor and a teacher that teaches at risk youth. None of them work 50+ hours. I just dont buy that claim.

I am good friends with 8 teachers from grade school through highschool. Every single one of them put a lot of hours in but they also choose when those hours are put in. There is zero structure in the profession. They are left to do things at their pace, not at the student's pace. Teaching is a very rogue profession and covid made it 100% worse. Their mentally is basically if the kids don't give a ****, either do we.

My son is a junior in highschool and an honor student and he still doesn't have papers graded from last semester. We get a weekly automated call from his school telling us he's failing two classes when in reality, the teachers just haven't graded the assignments. Many of them with heavy weighted points.