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  1. #1
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    Congratulations to Fred McGriff

    Selected by the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee this weekend.
    https://www.mlb.com/news/fred-mcgrif...ame-2023-class

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    Well deserved, however, even if you want to say sorry to the PED guys, Albert, Curt, and Dale should have all been voted in too.
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    I love it. Way to go Fred.

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    Imagine thinking that Fred McGriff has a better case for the HOF than Barry Bonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Imagine thinking that Fred McGriff has a better case for the HOF than Barry Bonds.
    As I have said many times before, had Bonds retired in 2000, he would have been enshrined in 2005.

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    If McGriff is a HOFer (56.9 WAR), is Evan Longoria (54.5 WAR) with 548 less games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    As I have said many times before, had Bonds retired in 2000, he would have been enshrined in 2005.
    Cool story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    If McGriff is a HOFer (56.9 WAR), is Evan Longoria (54.5 WAR) with 548 less games?
    May as well bring Will Clark in to the conversation as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    If McGriff is a HOFer (56.9 WAR), is Evan Longoria (54.5 WAR) with 548 less games?
    And at a harder position as well. I like McGriff, but I never thought he was a HOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    If McGriff is a HOFer (56.9 WAR), is Evan Longoria (54.5 WAR) with 548 less games?
    I would give him a vote
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    May as well bring Will Clark in to the conversation as well.
    After looking at stats, I agree that Will Clark deserves a longer look.
    https://stathead.com/baseball/player...um=0&request=1
    When I saw Will Clark play, I never thought of him as a Hall of Famer, as he didn't have eye-popping numbers. He only led his league in RBI (once), Runs Scored (once) PA & ABs (once each), Slugging (once) and Total Bases (once).
    He was a very solid ballplayer who was much better than average defensively and could run the bases well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    If McGriff is a HOFer (56.9 WAR), is Evan Longoria (54.5 WAR) with 548 less games?
    McGriff lead the league twice in homers, not that itís the bar, but he was the best slugger in his league twice. And is 7 homers shy of a guaranteed induction. Heís deserving as far as Iím concerned. Did Longoria ever lead the league in anything?

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    McGriff's highest HR total for a single season was 37, Longoria's is....36. By fWAR, Longoria has had two separate seasons that were more productive than McGriff's best season.

    Having said that, I have always thought McGriff was at best, a borderline HOF level player. I have never considered Longoria to be a HOF level player. The first half decade of the latter's career seemed to be angling in that direction but he's fallen off pretty hard in the later stages of his career.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...2-31&sort=23,d
    Last edited by spliff(TONE); 12-06-2022 at 08:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_noodles View Post
    McGriff lead the league twice in homers, not that itís the bar, but he was the best slugger in his league twice. And is 7 homers shy of a guaranteed induction. Heís deserving as far as Iím concerned. Did Longoria ever lead the league in anything?
    How does one define "best slugger"? HR total? SLG? OPS? BAINTL?

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    Definitely BAINTL

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