Healthcare

[natepro]

With the details you gave me, I would say that the ADA has no chance of being able to run heallthcare in this country due to their lack of familiarity with hospital, clinic, long-term care facilities and issues.
Now, dunsel, have you a legitimate suggestion or are you just going to waste more time here?

So they can concentrate more assets towards creating programs to deal with those things. You have yet to explain why they wouldn't be able to do this.

[catman]

14. Flaming - 2 infraction points
I know things can get pretty heated when you're discussing sports, but there's no need to get personal. Anyone who engages in name-calling, baiting, etc faces warnings via infractions and an eventual ban.

Does that rule not apply here any longer? Really getting mixed signals from you on this.

flaming? describing you in perfect terms is notr flaming.
Off topic posting is a 2 point infraction as well. All of the off topic posts you've had in this thread alone (prior to my moving them to the general thread) would have gotten you a permaban.
The topic here is healthcare. Have you a legitimate suggestion to help out or are you simply wasting more time?

[natepro]

flaming? describing you in perfect terms is notr flaming.
Off topic posting is a 2 point infraction as well. All of the off topic posts you've had in this thread alone (prior to my moving them to the general thread) would have gotten you a permaban.
The topic here is healthcare. Have you a legitimate suggestion to help out or are you simply wasting more time?

This is your reply as the mod of this forum? It can't be flaming if the person believes it's correct?

Are you sure that's the position you want to take on this?

[catman]

So they can concentrate more assets towards creating programs to deal with those things. You have yet to explain why they wouldn't be able to do this.

nate, if you have a legitimate suggestion, by all means bring it forward. I will not honor this nonsense with a further comment. The ADA is not qualified to operate the healthcare system in this country. They can handle the dental end of things perfectly. I would not want to tell them how to run their business or ask them to help hospitals, clinics, nursing homes and other healthcare facilities operate properly.

[catman]

This is your reply as the mod of this forum? It can't be flaming if the person believes it's correct?

Are you sure that's the position you want to take on this?

More off topic. Another 2 points.
I am not the topic of this thread, nate.
Edit:
Again, if you have a legitimate suggestion, by all means bring it forward. If not........

[natepro]

nate, if you have a legitimate suggestion, by all means bring it forward. I will not honor this nonsense with a further comment. The ADA is not qualified to operate the healthcare system in this country. They can handle the dental end of things perfectly. I would not want to tell them how to run their business or ask them to help hospitals, clinics, nursing homes and other healthcare facilities operate properly.

Are you suggesting they're not in the healthcare business? Isn't that the only business they're in? They could, and should, be the ones to solve this problem for us.

[spliff(TONE)]

The Mod Who Cried Wolf, starring catman

[natepro]

More off topic. Another 2 points.
I am not the topic of this thread, nate.
Edit:
Again, if you have a legitimate suggestion, by all means bring it forward. If not........

My post wasn't about you, it was about your reply to a direct question as a mod in this forum. One you still haven't answered, I notice.

[catman]

Are you suggesting they're not in the healthcare business? Isn't that the only business they're in? They could, and should, be the ones to solve this problem for us.

Yes, they are in the healthcare business, but they have no experience operating hospitals, nursing homes, PT clinics, MD clinics. That would be like me asking the board of nursing to operate dental clinics.
Again, if you have a legitimate suggestion, please bring it forward. Thusfar, you have wasted everyone's time and unless I see a legitimate suggestion, there is no need for me to respond to you further. There is no need for you to respond again in this thread without bringing forth a legitimate suggestion.

[catman]

My post wasn't about you, it was about your reply to a direct question as a mod in this forum. One you still haven't answered, I notice.

Why would I need to reply to trolling, nate?
Try to stay on topic -- Healthcare. Not nate.

[spliff(TONE)]

Yes, they are in the healthcare business, but they have no experience operating hospitals, nursing homes, PT clinics, MD clinics. That would be like me asking the board of nursing to operate dental clinics.
Again, if you have a legitimate suggestion, please bring it forward. Thusfar, you have wasted everyone's time and unless I see a legitimate suggestion, there is no need for me to respond to you further. There is no need for you to respond again in this thread without bringing forth a legitimate suggestion.

You should consider repeating yourself another thousand times; seems to be therapeutic for you.

[catman]

spliff, nate has asked me why I don't consider the ADA to be capable of operating the healthcare system in this country. Perhaps you should explain to him that I have answered his question.
Please at least make an attempt to stay on topic once in a while.

[natepro]

Yes, they are in the healthcare business, but they have no experience operating hospitals, nursing homes, PT clinics, MD clinics. That would be like me asking the board of nursing to operate dental clinics.
Again, if you have a legitimate suggestion, please bring it forward. Thusfar, you have wasted everyone's time and unless I see a legitimate suggestion, there is no need for me to respond to you further. There is no need for you to respond again in this thread without bringing forth a legitimate suggestion.

See, this is all a very weird argument for you to make, because you were fully on board with the American Medical Association administering health insurance for the entire country despite the fact that they have no experience operating a health insurance plan. All these things I've said about the ADA? You said the same thing about the AMA and health insurance.

You:

Government healthcare, as I have documented, does not run efficiently. Again, let the AMA administer such a program and I'll be more likely to support it. The AMA is only in the healthcare business. They can concentrate more assets toward making a program that works for everyone.

Me:

So they can concentrate more assets towards creating programs to deal with those things. You have yet to explain why they wouldn't be able to do this.

You:

The AMA is only in the healthcare business. They could, and should, be the ones to administer any healthcare program.

Me:

Are you suggesting they're not in the healthcare business? Isn't that the only business they're in? They could, and should, be the ones to solve this problem for us.

Over and over again you advocated for the AMA taking over national health insurance.

Who administers it? If you say the government, it is not workable. The government would guarantee too much inefficiency and expense. As I said before, have the AMA administer it, and I'm on board.

The government does nothing efficiently or effectively. Put the AMA in charge of it and I'll be far more likely to support it.

That's a good question. They would do a far better job of administering healthcare than is being done now. They would be far more efficient and effective than a government run program, as they would not have the layers of bureaucracy that any government program would have here.

And when anyone pointed out to you that they have no experience doing this...

In no way is the AMA set up to administer a national health care program.

And there's the small matter of them having no experience running something like that. They don't even administer malpractice insurance for the doctors in their organization, but now they're going to be the best pick to run health coverage for 330 million people. It's nonsensical.

...you either called it a "deflection," or tried to change the subject to claim (without evidence, of course) that the real issue was people's apathy, or you just didn't reply to it at all.

I know you're not going to actually address any of this. You know you're not actually going to address any of this. Hell, you're not even reading this part, because Christ knows you've given no indication you have the ability to stick with something longer than three or four lines; but that's okay. The inherent contradiction in your own arguments has been exposed despite the fact that your reply will have nothing to do with anything I said here.

Thanks for your help in exposing you once again.

[spliff(TONE)]

spliff, nate has asked me why I don't consider the ADA to be capable of operating the healthcare system in this country. Perhaps you should explain to him that I have answered his question.
Please at least make an attempt to stay on topic once in a while.

Atta boy: keep repeating yourself. Eventually we'll all agree with you.

[natepro]

Why would I need to reply to trolling, nate?
Try to stay on topic -- Healthcare. Not nate.

I asked you a direct question relating to the moderation of this forum. You either cannot answer it, or you are choosing not to answer it; either way, it's just another example of why you're so spectacularly awful at this.