Healthcare

[catman]

No, it didn't. You had to go to the fourth thing in the list to find something that was a requirement to notify, but ignored the three things before it and the three after to do so.

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

nate, you are now arguing simply to argue, but that is nothing new.
You are either purposely missing the point or you simply can't understand the point. My guess is the second.

[catman]

I've replied directly to everything you've said.

You cannot say the same.

Sometimes what you say is not worth responding to. I don't respond to nonsense posts.

[natepro]

nate, you are now arguing simply to argue, but that is nothing new.
You are either purposely missing the point or you simply can't understand the point. My guess is the second.

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

[natepro]

Sometimes what you say is not worth responding to. I don't respond to nonsense posts.

You don't respond to things that refute your claims. You're trying really hard not to right now. I've directly addressed the topic, and you're doing your best to talk about me instead of the subject now. There's a reason for that.

[catman]

OK nate. You are up.
What would you do to attract and retain quality healthcare employees?
What would you do (complete with details of operation) to manage our healthcare in this country?
Edit:
You are not the subject here. Healthcare is the subject. You are simply attempting to make this personal, as you nearly always do.

[natepro]

OK nate. You are up.
What would you do to attract and retain quality healthcare employees?
What would you do (complete with details of operation) to manage our healthcare in this country?
Edit:
You are not the subject here. Healthcare is the subject. You are simply attempting to make this personal, as you nearly always do.

Nope. Not letting you change the subject because you don't want to answer the question.

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

I'm not the one who is "attempting to make this personal." I've directly asked you this same question three times now; you've replied to it twice by talking about me instead of answering it.

Answer the question.

[catman]

Yes, goverrnment agencies do report to congress. I simply do not want congress directing healthcare.
Now, you're up.
What should we do to attract and retain quality healthcare workers?
How would you run healthcare in this country (complete with operations)?
This is your chance to shine and let everyone know that you can think for yourself. Don't blow it.
Edit:
It has never been about you. It has always been about healthcare. You are simply in the way.

[natepro]

Yes, goverrnment agencies do report to congress. I simply do not want congress directing healthcare.
Now, you're up.
What should we do to attract and retain quality healthcare workers?
How would you run healthcare in this country (complete with operations)?
This is your chance to shine and let everyone know that you can think for yourself. Don't blow it.

You're still trying to weasel out of this and expecting me to fall for it.

This was your question:

When was the last time congress told the sec of defense what to do?

I gave you specific examples of them doing exactly that. You tried to argue it wasn't by saying:

What you posted says that the cabinet departments must inform congress of what they are doing, not that congress controls what they do.

All you're doing here with saying "government agencies do report to congress" is repeating yourself and acting like it's answering my question, and it's not.

So, for the fourth time:

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

[catman]

Yes nate. Government agencies report to congress. I have granted that. Your reading comprehension problems have jumped up and bit you yet again -- at a very bad time for you.
Now its your turn.
Answer my questions.

[natepro]

Yes nate. Government agencies report to congress. I have granted that. Your reading comprehension problems have jumped up and bit you yet again -- at a very bad time for you.
Now its your turn.
Answer my questions.

I didn't ask about them reporting to congress. Again, you very specifically asked when the last time congress told SecDef what to do, and then objected that what I had shown was simply requiring them to "inform" congress, but "not that congress controls what they do."

Fifth time.

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

[catman]

5th time. Yes, government agencies report to congress. I explained that earlier (and you didn't understand what I said). You even quoted it.
"What you posted says that the cabinet departments must inform congress of what they are doing, not that congress controls what they do."
What part of that don't you understand?
I do not want congress to control what we get for healthcare. Do you?
You have yet to tell me what you think would be a good way to attract and retain healthcare workers (far more important than anything you are arguing about). You have yet to tell me what you would do to manage healthcare in this country (far more important that whether or not government agencies report to congress).
Nice try to deflect, yet again. You are arguing minutia (typical for you -- argue meaningless nonsense and ignore the most important questions).
Time for you to show that you can actually think for yourself and not just find stuff that you don't understand on google.

[natepro]

5th time. Yes, government agencies report to congress. I explained that earlier (and you didn't understand what I said). You even quoted it.
"What you posted says that the cabinet departments must inform congress of what they are doing, not that congress controls what they do."
What part of that don't you understand?
I do not want congress to control what we get for healthcare. Do you?
You have yet to tell me what you think would be a good way to attract and retain healthcare workers (far more important than anything you are arguing about). You have yet to tell me what you would do to manage healthcare in this country (far more important that whether or not government agencies report to congress).
Nice try to deflect, yet again. You are arguing minutia (typical for you -- argue meaningless nonsense and ignore the most important questions).
Time for you to show that you can actually think for yourself and not just find stuff that you don't understand on google.

We're not talking about reporting to congress. You can put "yes" in front of a sentence all you want, it's never going to magically turn it into an answer to my question.

We're not talking about reporting to congress, we're talking about congress controlling cabinet departments. These are clearly, obviously different things.

You've claimed, again, that what I posted is "not that congress controls what they do."

What part of "requires the Department of Homeland Security to designate a laboratory as the Chemical Security Analysis Center" is "must inform congress of what they are doing"?

How is that not congress controlling what they do?

[catman]

OK, congress told homeland security that they had to create a lab. Fine. Do they tell homeland security how to operate it? I didn't think so.
Now that I have given you the answer that you have "demanded" (you would have continued pouting and whining until I did), its time for you to explain how you would manage healthcare. That is by far a more important question than anything you have asked in this thread.
How would you attract and retain quality healthcare employees?
How would you manage healthcare in this country (including operations)?

[natepro]

OK, congress told homeland security that they had to create a lab. Fine. Do they tell homeland security how to operate it? I didn't think so.
Now that I have given you the answer that you have "demanded" (you would have continued pouting and whining until I did), its time for you to explain how you would manage healthcare. That is by far a more important question than anything you have asked in this thread.
How would you attract and retain quality healthcare employees?
How would you manage healthcare in this country (including operations).

They didn't?

What would you call this, then?

``(c) Laboratory Activities.--The Chemical Security Analysis Center
shall--
``(1) identify and develop countermeasures to chemical
threats, including the development of comprehensive, research-
based definable goals for such countermeasures;
``(2) provide an enduring science-based chemical threat and
hazard analysis capability;
``(3) provide expertise in risk and consequence modeling,
chemical sensing and detection, analytical chemistry, chemical
toxicology, synthetic chemistry and reaction characterization,
and nontraditional chemical agents and emerging chemical
threats;
``(4) staff and operate a technical assistance program that
provides operational support and subject matter expertise,
design and execute laboratory and field tests, and provide a
comprehensive knowledge repository of chemical threat
information that is continuously updated with data from
scientific, intelligence, operational, and private sector
sources; and
``(5) carry out such other activities as the Secretary
determines appropriate.



But even if we assume they're not telling them how to operate it, how is telling a cabinet department to create a lab not controlling them?

[catman]

More deflection from the important questions? Typical.
I'll wait to read your program, complete with details. I have confidence that you can actually do it. This is your chance to shine and show me that you can, indeed, think for yourself.