Week 12: Thanksgiving -- Bills @ Lions; Giants @ Cowboys; Patriots @ Vikings

[LionsFan..LOL]

Why the **** did Jones try to return it there and not take the free yards

[BSF101]

NE blows probably will go 6-6 after Buffalo destroys them.

[BSF101]

They legit are calling nothing on the vikings this has been really bad

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Why are you surprised?

[Midnightbottle]

Why are you surprised?

It's just odd. Look I know calls are random and the refs aren't on anyone's side but they missed some easy calls that would of changed the game. Slater legit got blocked in the back twice on the same kick off. The kick return the vikings scored on had a bad hold and Mac had a face mask call missed on a big 3rd down in the fourth. I'm not saying the pats would of won cause they made bad plays but man it was just bad.

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[SiteWolf]

It's just odd. Look I know calls are random and the refs aren't on anyone's side but they missed some easy calls that would of changed the game. Slater legit got blocked in the back twice on the same kick off. The kick return the vikings scored on had a bad hold and Mac had a face mask call missed on a big 3rd down in the fourth. I'm not saying the pats would of won cause they made bad plays but man it was just bad.

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There were bad calls that went the Patriots' way, too, though. There was a pretty blatant hold on one Pats' TD, 12 men on the field, false starts, a couple PIs that generally get called....and from my view, the Mac 'face mask' was shoulder pad.

Stuff happens every game because officials can have bad plays just like players can...they just have the ability to go back and correct some. But some are just subjective, too...

[BDawk4Prez]

Hunter Henry caught the ball.


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[carter80]

Hunter Henry caught the ball.


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Thats a negative


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[warfelg]

Hunter Henry caught the ball.


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Then so did Jesse James.


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[Midnightbottle]

Thats a negative


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Nope it was. It went over the line.

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[Mamba42]

That should have been a catch for Henry IMO. Possession and turn over the goal line should constitute a football move IMO.

[carter80]

It hit the ground and he bobbled it.


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[BDawk4Prez]

That should have been a catch for Henry IMO. Possession and turn over the goal line should constitute a football move IMO.

Catch


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[mariner4life]

Catch


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I thought it was a catch too.

[goingfor28]

The rule book 100% says it wasn't a catch. The eye test 100% says it was a catch.

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[hugepatsfan]

Maybe I’m seeing something different than everyone else or maybe I’ve been so indoctrinated by NFL officiating but seemed a clear no catch to me. I never doubted that they’d overturn it. I was more annoyed with the missed facemask on the play against Mac Jones… not that it was some egregious or malicious play but it was just incredibly blatant and something that they normally call religiously. But whatever, they let MIN go up and down the field, stalled on offense in key spots, committed back breaking special teams miscues. Our red zone offense is downright pathetic so we’d probably end up with a field goal anyway if they call the facemask.

So much chatter about a play that was a 4 point difference (TD vs FG) in a game that was decided by 3 points. I guess maybe Kirk Cousins would have field more pressure or whatever down 4 vs tied, but MIN has crushed it in 1 score games this year. I have no more faith that our offense goes down the field if only down 3 on the last drive vs down 7.

The Pats just don’t have any playmakers on that team. Stevenson looks like he will be at that level one day and Judon has the gaudy sack totals to get him there (all around game isn’t as great though), but there isn’t another player on the team that is a serious pro bowl talent, never mind an all pro. Their high end talent has to be one of the worst teams in the league. Usually even the worst teams in the league have some amount of great players. The Pats have basically none.

When you get in those close games against good teams, sometimes it’s just as simple as your guy needs to make a play that he’s not supposed to. I go back to last years playoff game against the Bills on that early drive where Jordan Poyer stopped them from tying it early with an unbelievable play to cover basically half the field and pick it off in the end zone to really shut us down early from even having a shot. Jefferson last night made a few ridiculous catches that you just have to shake your head at. Against the Ravens earlier this year the Pats played probably their best game for 3 quarters before Lamar Jackson just single handedly ran through them in the 4th. The Pats just don’t have any/many options for guys who can give you plays like that.