Game 16: Los Angeles Lakers @ Phoenix Suns

[Scoots]

Is this supposed to be a trick question? Not sure where you come up with me saying it’s okay.

Only in your mind. You said if a violent act injured a player the perpetrator would be suspended for a season, but Jokic DID EXACTLY THAT and wasn't suspended for the season and you defended him not being suspended ... so you are said a player who shoved someone in the back and injured them would be suspended for the season but you are okay with Jokic doing it ... inconsistent as can be.

[ldawg]

Only in your mind. You said if a violent act injured a player the perpetrator would be suspended for a season, but Jokic DID EXACTLY THAT and wasn't suspended for the season and you defended him not being suspended ... so you are said a player who shoved someone in the back and injured them would be suspended for the season but you are okay with Jokic doing it ... inconsistent as can be.

What are you talking about?
Jokic was suspended. Same 1 game pat was given for pushing CP3.
If you intentionally injured a player as I stated depending on how severely the player is injured you you can get a whole season.
In pat case he have a history which will play a part in the ruling.
Your trying hard… 😂

In short no incident is the same. It will be reviewed the outcome what lead up to.

[Scoots]

What are you talking about?
Jokic was suspended. Same 1 game pat was given for pushing CP3.
If you intentionally injured a player as I stated depending on how severely the player is injured you you can get a whole season.
In pat case he have a history which will play a part in the ruling.
Your trying hard… 😂

In short no incident is the same. It will be reviewed the outcome what lead up to.

Okay, so an NBA player who intentionally shoves another player in the back and injures them should not be suspended for the season. Gotcha.

[WhiteShadow42]

Okay, so an NBA player who intentionally shoves another player in the back and injures them should not be suspended for the season. Gotcha.

Dude that was obvious.

[ldawg]

Okay, so an NBA player who intentionally shoves another player in the back and injures them should not be suspended for the season. Gotcha.

Which part did you miss? Morris have a history of antics and he caused the incident by Intentionally cheap shot jokic. Which lead joker to shove him back. Context. It will be taking into account. Jokic do not have a history of antics he was a victim.

Pat possible year long why. He have a history of antics he hurt Westbrook. After that he mocked and played with the idea when he played Westbrook after he returned from injury. He also pushed CP3 hard pushing him to the floor luckily he was not injured. Plus he have numerous run run in. In this incident he was not involved in the play and instigated the situation.

This is not being inconsistent lol keep trying you might get lucky.

[Scoots]

Which part did you miss? Morris have a history of antics and he caused the incident by Intentionally cheap shot jokic. Which lead joker to shove him back. Context. It will be taking into account. Jokic do not have a history of antics he was a victim.

Pat possible year long why. He have a history of antics he hurt Westbrook. After that he mocked and played with the idea when he played Westbrook after he returned from injury. He also pushed CP3 hard pushing him to the floor luckily he was not injured. Plus he have numerous run run in. In this incident he was not involved in the play and instigated the situation.

This is not being inconsistent lol keep trying you might get lucky.

Okay, so if a cheap shot is followed by retaliation then it's okay? This sounds so familiar.

[Big Moves03]

Which part did you miss? Morris have a history of antics and he caused the incident by Intentionally cheap shot jokic. Which lead joker to shove him back. Context. It will be taking into account. Jokic do not have a history of antics he was a victim.

Pat possible year long why. He have a history of antics he hurt Westbrook. After that he mocked and played with the idea when he played Westbrook after he returned from injury. He also pushed CP3 hard pushing him to the floor luckily he was not injured. Plus he have numerous run run in. In this incident he was not involved in the play and instigated the situation.

This is not being inconsistent lol keep trying you might get lucky.

Let's stop this idiocy here: No, no player would get suspended for a year for pushing another guy in the back regardless of what happened to that other player (unless basketball games start being played on a bridge and someone gets pushed off the bridge). A severe injury would lead to a more severe penalty for someone like Beverly, but highly unlikely it would result in a massive suspension because intention would be factored in and it is historically rare for any kind of major injury to occur off of a shove and so the chances for injury are super low off of a shove, which means no one is intending to injure someone off of a shove. Maybe a 5-15 game suspension if it resulted in a season-ending injury, but it would get appealed and probably be reduced if it were on the longer end. Super long suspensions involve truly outlandish type of behavior. Shoving someone is not going to get anywhere near that. End of story.

[ldawg]

Okay, so if a cheap shot is followed by retaliation then it's okay? This sounds so familiar.

Who said it was ok to retaliate? he got suspended a game right? he was the victim and got suspended. Did he or did he not suspended for pushing someone in the back in a violent manner? why are you focused on the length now? a year a month i dont care that will be determined by the league as they see fit depending on the outcome. It will not be handed out equally as these are case by case incidents. Obvious a year is excessive no shht. Me saying a year is just an opinion and not something set in stone LOL. Hell i can argue Pat should have only gotten 1 game or non at all and just be fined by the league. LOL that we can all argue..lol.


This all started with pushing is part of the game. we can all come to agree its not an opinion its a fact that if you push a player violently it will lead to some form of punishment. Its not accepted on the court off the court no where.

[ldawg]

Let's stop this idiocy here: No, no player would get suspended for a year for pushing another guy in the back regardless of what happened to that other player (unless basketball games start being played on a bridge and someone gets pushed off the bridge). A severe injury would lead to a more severe penalty for someone like Beverly, but highly unlikely it would result in a massive suspension because intention would be factored in and it is historically rare for any kind of major injury to occur off of a shove and so the chances for injury are super low off of a shove, which means no one is intending to injure someone off of a shove. Maybe a 5-15 game suspension if it resulted in a season-ending injury, but it would get appealed and probably be reduced if it were on the longer end. Super long suspensions involve truly outlandish type of behavior. Shoving someone is not going to get anywhere near that. End of story.

So are we at an agreement violent pushing is not aloud? the technicalities length who cares? yes a year long is a over board and could be excessive but not ruled out base on outcome. unlikely however would need to be a brawl a fan or coach like Rudy being hurt. Hell did someone like an owner or something form Raptors not get banned for a year pushing Lowry or some player. i think not sure.

[Big Moves03]

So are we at an agreement violent pushing is not aloud? the technicalities length who cares? yes a year long is a over board and could be excessive but not ruled out base on outcome. unlikely however would need to be a brawl a fan or coach like Rudy being hurt. Hell did someone like an owner or something form Raptors not get banned for a year pushing Lowry or some player. i think not sure.

You're not allowed to foul players, but you're not going to get suspended for doing so. The situation you are mentioning about an executive getting a lengthy suspension is different, because that person is not a part of the game in any way, shape, or form. They are essentially a bystander so of course the repercussions when they get physically involved with the players has to be more severe than players getting physical with each other.

[ldawg]

You're not allowed to foul players, but you're not going to get suspended for doing so. The situation you are mentioning about an executive getting a lengthy suspension is different, because that person is not a part of the game in any way, shape, or form. They are essentially a bystander so of course the repercussions when they get physically involved with the players has to be more severe than players getting physical with each other.

Yes i agree.

Basketball is a contact sport. And you have to expect some level of physical punishment. You get 6 fouls before your out the game. Just as in Boxing, soccer, Football etc i am sure the teams would protect themselves form lawsuits and players would have to sign waiver and know the risk involved. The more harsh hits that is questionable as the league see fit will lead to fines, suspension, and in very very very rear case banishment.

[Scoots]

Who said it was ok to retaliate? he got suspended a game right? he was the victim and got suspended. Did he or did he not suspended for pushing someone in the back in a violent manner? why are you focused on the length now? a year a month i dont care that will be determined by the league as they see fit depending on the outcome. It will not be handed out equally as these are case by case incidents. Obvious a year is excessive no shht. Me saying a year is just an opinion and not something set in stone LOL. Hell i can argue Pat should have only gotten 1 game or non at all and just be fined by the league. LOL that we can all argue..lol.


This all started with pushing is part of the game. we can all come to agree its not an opinion its a fact that if you push a player violently it will lead to some form of punishment. Its not accepted on the court off the court no where.

You said that shoving a player and injuring them would get a full season suspension, then you said Jokic got a 1 game suspension and that was fine ... for shoving a player in retaliation and injuring them. Your whole schtick was that "violence" was some horrible crime against the sport and you took an extreme position but you just couldn't hold on to it when you found out Jokic did something worse and got less of a suspension than PB.

[Scoots]

how many more pages do we need to go?

[ldawg]

You said that shoving a player and injuring them would get a full season suspension, then you said Jokic got a 1 game suspension and that was fine ... for shoving a player in retaliation and injuring them. Your whole schtick was that "violence" was some horrible crime against the sport and you took an extreme position but you just couldn't hold on to it when you found out Jokic did something worse and got less of a suspension than PB.

your intertwining post. ok ill put them together.

''Thats true but the league looks for that. its retaliation. So in many cases a tech will be handed out to both players or players involved. The league has been through it many times and the calls evolved with the rest of the game. The player your talking about is Pat Bev dude have a history thats what he does. He may be the most annoying player for opponents in the game today."

"yall really cant grasp it. Dude if one of those players more so Ayton fell and got hurt the situation would have been worst. The worst the injury worst he punishment. Had a brawl started the same act would have had resulted more punishment. Obviously the injury would have to be something in which Ayton would miss time to recover. Ex a broken wrist, a injury to knee, a spinal injury, etc."

"Which part did you miss? Morris have a history of antics and he caused the incident by Intentionally cheap shot jokic. Which lead joker to shove him back. Context. It will be taking into account. Jokic do not have a history of antics he was a victim.

"Pat possible year long why. He have a history of antics he hurt Westbrook. After that he mocked and played with the idea when he played Westbrook after he returned from injury. He also pushed CP3 hard pushing him to the floor luckily he was not injured. Plus he have numerous run run in. In this incident he was not involved in the play and instigated the situation. "

Your taken it to literally. these are just examples. I really dont care about the length these are side note post. My year is over the top if that makes you feel better? OK OK ill settle for July. The length of the punishment is not set in stone. It will have factors in play. History, extent of injury, what lead up to injury etc. ....Look at it this way if a player like Duncan hit you you did something to upset him he is not the player out there horsing around and that will play a factor. Its not i hit a guy in the back at half strength = 1 game lol. You dont even have to be suspended. The whole point its a punishable act which took pages for something we all should know. Will everyone be happy on the length no. Hell People would be happy Morris got hurt for his antics and mad Jokic got suspended. So dont take a full season to hart. Where in history have a player got a full year? it took a brawl. I dont work for the league and we both know punishment goes as one see fit.

EX Pat shove of CP3 was worst than Ayton. He got 3 game the second time for a less violent shove on a bigger player. His history payed a factor could have been a year for the same act...LOL

[Iron24th]

how many more pages do we need to go?

8 more pages, you're on a roll!