Off Season Thread- 2022-2023

[OhSoSlick]

Forgive my naivete'. but who the F is LionInTexas?

Unk.

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[drt1010]

FWIW, twitter universe and other online BB related chatter and rumor, Yanks and Brewers possible deal. Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff being discussed. Peraza and other youngsters in the mix. Only rumor at this point. Both come with 2 years control.

Brewers are reportedly trading 2B Colton Wong, which creates a an IF need.

Seems several teams have shown interest in the Brewers pitchers.

[drt1010]

Unk.

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Or was it someones cousins wife, brothers, sister in laws former friend?

[Kinkotheclown]

FWIW, twitter universe and other online BB related chatter and rumor, Yanks and Brewers possible deal. Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff being discussed. Peraza and other youngsters in the mix. Only rumor at this point. Both come with 2 years control.

Brewers are reportedly trading 2B Colton Wong, which creates a an IF need.

Seems several teams have shown interest in the Brewers pitchers.

For both? Both guys are starters right?

[drt1010]

For both? Both guys are starters right?

NO! Both are being discussed as potential trade candidates, along with Adames. Brewers facing huge arb class trying to move them now rather than pay them later.

[OhSoSlick]

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Or was it someones cousins wife, brothers, sister in laws former friend?

Hmm..KJ?

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[dayners81]

Hard pass. No PEDs. If he was using at this age, that's a bad sign.
He also dislocated his shoulder 4 times in a year???

And he broke his hamate bone

And then there is this

On a Saturday afternoon in St. Louis, Tatis, after losing his cool following a called third strike, snapped at Dickerson when the coach tapped the then-22-year-old shortstop on the leg and essentially told him “let’s go, we need you.”

“You go play baseball!” Machado shouted at Tatis, adding with an expletive: “It’s not … about you!”

After Dickerson and Tatis had been separated, starting pitcher Joe Musgrove told the coach he had done the right thing. Many players had grown tired of Tatis’s moodiness, immaturity and lack of accountability. Just as his energy could lift the team, his behavior during the team’s collapse was deflating. It’s about time somebody said something, Musgrove told Dickerson.


I have no idea how the Dads trade a kid with a crap attitude, major injury history, PED usage, who was playing like crap and who has 12 years left on a contra t that balloons to 36 AAV in it's last 6 years.

They will have to eat it up.

Hmmm. Send them JD, Hicks and have them eat half the contract? Still such a risk.

Yeah, hard pass for me also. PEDS, very injury prone and doesn't give a shite about his team/teammates

Now if they would take a pile of crap for him like the package you suggested and they ate about half, maybe?

[dayners81]

Forgive my naivete'. but who the F is LionInTexas?

U aren't alone on trying to figure that out, all of MLB twitter is wondering the same thing.
There are some rumors he's a GM's kid or grandkid, but he's got access to someone who is an extreme insider.

All i do know is whoever he is, he hasn't missed yet and had multiple deals way before Passen, Rosenthal or anyone else. Passen even gave him credit for having a couple deal exactly, before him..

If you want a good follow and someone who is very connected to someone, he's worth it

[johnny ny]

Yeah, hard pass for me also. PEDS, very injury prone and doesn't give a shite about his team/teammates

Now if they would take a pile of crap for him like the package you suggested and they ate about half, maybe?

tatis needs to mature but you cannot deny his ability... did you feel the same away about peds when arod cano giambi sheffield and a bunch of others were using them on the yankees?

[dayners81]

heavily expect that regardless if they sign Judge or not, expect the Yankees to get a top starter. They want Rodon, but a lot of other team do as well. The Yanks have a "price " they value him at and if they can get him for that, they're all in. Probably something in the 6yr180m ish range.

They are also heavily in on Verlander and using Cole to try and recruit him. 2yr80m with a 3rd yr option is their ceiling for him.

Senga is also someone to watch for us. He's topped out at 101 with the MLB ball and is able to throw his breaking pitches at a very similar spin rate and the shape is also very good.. He's dominated big teams in the WBC and has a better K/per9 rate than Darvish, Tanaka or Ohtani when they we're in that same league. He also has what they consider the best split CU/ forkball.. Think McClanahan split CU with even less spin( almost knuckle ballish)
https://youtu.be/aV8LYcKLONY Look at the .50 second on, they slow it way down so you can see the spin

They consider him a TORP and he won't come with any penalties to sign and gets Hal back into the Asian market again.. Senga is starting to make a lot of sense..

The ask for McCarthy is Lo, Gomez plus.. Yanks aren't willing to part with Lo for a LF, unless they can fortify the BP more. With the way Lo threw the ball from July on, he was probably their best BP arm and is probably the favorite for our closers job.

It's starting to sound more and more that they expect DJ to be out till around the AS break. It's sounding like they will keep 1 of the group of IKF, Torres and JD. IKF because of his versatility, lowest salary and contact ability probably make him the favorite. That said they aren't going to give Torres away, just to move him. If they don't get the kinda asset back for him they are looking for, they will hold onto him till summer time and hope he has a big first half again

That also fit into a better timeline for Volpe. They really want him to dominate AAA for a couple months, then call him up. Volpe is already at their Tampa facility preparing for his shot in ST. He working with pitching and the strength coaches to improve his arm strength. He isn't going to concede SS to Peraza, he wants to stay at SS if he can earn it. Ultimately, he will play wherever they think he's best suited for.

Because of Peraza's much better arm, he could end up at 3rd, maybe. There's a non zero chance that we see Peraza at 3rd, Volpe at SS and Torres at 2nd sometime next yr. Volpe would have to really improve his range and arm, but's its been discussed as 1 possibility.

This DJ injury is making what they really want to do this winter more difficult.

Judge and Hal have a in person meetings scheduled and Hal is meeting with the Pope in Rome today, ( maybe asking for special advise and blessings?lol) so it's very unlikely Judge signs anywhere before then.

Hal is also seen as willing to "chase Judge to the ends of the earth" where Cashman wouldn't. Sounds like Cash would walk at whatever price point and yrs Hal is currently offering.

FWIW

[dayners81]

tatis needs to mature but you cannot deny his ability... did you feel the same away about peds when arod cano giambi sheffield and a bunch of others were using them on the yankees?

PEDS didn't get you suspend for 80 games when those guys we're juicing. As soon as they started making rule and testing for PEDS, I didn't want anyone who was juicing then or now..

When it effect the team like it does now, it's stupid and selfish for anyone much less your star player to use them knowing that being out for the yr could cost your teammates a chance at the chip

[runnermjr1296]

heavily expect that regardless if they sign Judge or not, expect the Yankees to get a top starter. They want Rodon, but a lot of other team do as well. The Yanks have a "price " they value him at and if they can get him for that, they're all in. Probably something in the 6yr180m ish range.

They are also heavily in on Verlander and using Cole to try and recruit him. 2yr80m with a 3rd yr option is their ceiling for him.

Senga is also someone to watch for us. He's topped out at 101 with the MLB ball and is able to throw his breaking pitches at a very similar spin rate and the shape is also very good.. He's dominated big teams in the WBC and has a better K/per9 rate than Darvish, Tanaka or Ohtani when they we're in that same league. He also has what they consider the best split CU/ forkball.. Think McClanahan split CU with even less spin( almost knuckle ballish)
https://youtu.be/aV8LYcKLONY Look at the .50 second on, they slow it way down so you can see the spin

They consider him a TORP and he won't come with any penalties to sign and gets Hal back into the Asian market again.. Senga is starting to make a lot of sense..

The ask for McCarthy is Lo, Gomez plus.. Yanks aren't willing to part with Lo for a LF, unless they can fortify the BP more. With the way Lo threw the ball from July on, he was probably their best BP arm and is probably the favorite for our closers job.

It's starting to sound more and more that they expect DJ to be out till around the AS break. It's sounding like they will keep 1 of the group of IKF, Torres and JD. IKF because of his versatility, lowest salary and contact ability probably make him the favorite. That said they aren't going to give Torres away, just to move him. If they don't get the kinda asset back for him they are looking for, they will hold onto him till summer time and hope he has a big first half again

That also fit into a better timeline for Volpe. They really want him to dominate AAA for a couple months, then call him up. Volpe is already at their Tampa facility preparing for his shot in ST. He working with pitching and the strength coaches to improve his arm strength. He isn't going to concede SS to Peraza, he wants to stay at SS if he can earn it. Ultimately, he will play wherever they think he's best suited for.

Because of Peraza's much better arm, he could end up at 3rd, maybe. There's a non zero chance that we see Peraza at 3rd, Volpe at SS and Torres at 2nd sometime next yr. Volpe would have to really improve his range and arm, but's its been discussed as 1 possibility.

This DJ injury is making what they really want to do this winter more difficult.

Judge and Hal have a in person meetings scheduled and Hal is meeting with the Pope in Rome today, ( maybe asking for special advise and blessings?lol) so it's very unlikely Judge signs anywhere before then.

Hal is also seen as willing to "chase Judge to the ends of the earth" where Cashman wouldn't. Sounds like Cash would walk at whatever price point and yrs Hal is currently offering.

FWIW

My two cents worth, as much as this pains me to say this, cash is being the voice of reason here. Hal knows Judge puts fannies in the seats and between the jerseys and the rest of the Judge merchandise , Judge makes Hal even richer than he already is. The heck with whether or not this is a good baseball decision, to Hal this is all about business.

As little confidence I have in cash to take this 300 million (probably a lot more) over the next 8 plus years and put it to good use, I tend to agree with the theory of not putting all your eggs in one basket. And correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t cash want to back out of the ARod deal but Hank over rode him?

I’ll tell you what if I’m Judge and I know how badly Hal wants me to sell his product im asking for a blank check.

Again just my opinion and two cents worth


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[runnermjr1296]

DeGrom to texas


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[OhSoSlick]

DeGrom to texas


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5 years..185 million. For a guy with his arm issues, yikes. 6th year conditional option can make it 6/220

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[OhSoSlick]

My guess. Cohen goes nuts and ends up with Rondon or Verlander

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