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  1. #856
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Dom for Reynolds? No thank you

    I know it’s a dice roll, and odds aren’t good and all, but the kid starting to look like the real deal. I want to see what we have there. I wouldn’t entertain trading him, unless it’s for a real star
    oh, for sure not what I would do, but would you really put that past Cashman? I do think they consider Reynolds a star, but he's probably not a top 25 player.

    I 100% agree with you about Dom, he's starting to look like he could live up to most of the hype. He's gotten his swing down from the RH side and since he's done that, he's been on an absolute tear.

    The one thing that may factor into their willingness to trade Dom would be Spencer Jones. He's right behind Dom, has a much, much higher chance to stick in CF and talent wise IMO, they aren't that far apart.

    Dom's 1 of 4-5 guys in the system I absolutely wouldn't trade, but especially after what Cashman gave away at the deadline, I just don't trust him not to move those guys. My untouchable are Volpe, Peraza, Arias and to a slightly lesser extent Dom and Jones.

    I think it's very, very likely Wells, Sweeney and Pereira will be moved at some point in the future, because they really aren't great fits positionally on this roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I agree about the pitching, but i think it's very, very unlikely the sign anyone attached to a QO.

    Rodon is looking for 6-7yrs at 35m AAV. I just don't see them giving him that with his injury history. IMO, it much more likely they trade for someone
    I’m my opinion you go after the pitcher. You let Hal worry about the salary. We just care about the production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I agree about the pitching, but i think it's very, very unlikely the sign anyone attached to a QO.

    Rodon is looking for 6-7yrs at 35m AAV. I just don't see them giving him that with his injury history. IMO, it much more likely they trade for someone
    The Yankees used to have the highest payroll with regards to building a rotation. They once had Clemens, ElDuque, Cone, Pettitte and Irabu.

    Their salary was comparable to what the top pitchers have now. It is all relative.

    Get Rondon and pay the salary and don’t worry about it. You never hear Hal or Cashman listing the payroll of the club, the media does that. Sure they say things that you have to read between the lines. But I have never heard Hal say $36 million is too much for Cole with regards to his production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Dom for Reynolds? No thank you

    I know it’s a dice roll, and odds aren’t good and all, but the kid starting to look like the real deal. I want to see what we have there. I wouldn’t entertain trading him, unless it’s for a real star
    There are few trades that you have to entertain . Dom, Hicks, Cabrera, Sweeney, Gil for Reynolds?
    It would suck to see Dom and Cabrera go but you get a 28 year old, with hitting AS caliber player? He is under control through 2024, so you get 3 full seasons with him and you have Jones and Pereira still in the system, to take over when Bader leaves.

    I get it. I would love to see Dom but Reynolds had a down year and was still really good.
    Then again, you have a guy who isn't even 20 yet and if he continues as is, should be kicking in a door at the MLB level and could be just as good as Reynolds and be under control for much longer.

    If they could somehow replace Dom with Torres and Pereira as the top billing, I think it would be amazing. You get a guy for 3 years who can play LF/CF until Dom and Jones find their way.
    You also get a trade for Torres that is worth it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    oh, for sure not what I would do, but would you really put that past Cashman? I do think they consider Reynolds a star, but he's probably not a top 25 player.

    I 100% agree with you about Dom, he's starting to look like he could live up to most of the hype. He's gotten his swing down from the RH side and since he's done that, he's been on an absolute tear.

    The one thing that may factor into their willingness to trade Dom would be Spencer Jones. He's right behind Dom, has a much, much higher chance to stick in CF and talent wise IMO, they aren't that far apart.

    Dom's 1 of 4-5 guys in the system I absolutely wouldn't trade, but especially after what Cashman gave away at the deadline, I just don't trust him not to move those guys. My untouchable are Volpe, Peraza, Arias and to a slightly lesser extent Dom and Jones.

    I think it's very, very likely Wells, Sweeney and Pereira will be moved at some point in the future, because they really aren't great fits positionally on this roster.
    I think if Wells goes in a trade, it speaks to them having an inside track on the Japanese first baseman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    There are few trades that you have to entertain . Dom, Hicks, Cabrera, Sweeney, Gil for Reynolds?
    It would suck to see Dom and Cabrera go but you get a 28 year old, with hitting AS caliber player? He is under control through 2024, so you get 3 full seasons with him and you have Jones and Pereira still in the system, to take over when Bader leaves.

    I get it. I would love to see Dom but Reynolds had a down year and was still really good.
    Then again, you have a guy who isn't even 20 yet and if he continues as is, should be kicking in a door at the MLB level and could be just as good as Reynolds and be under control for much longer.

    If they could somehow replace Dom with Torres and Pereira as the top billing, I think it would be amazing. You get a guy for 3 years who can play LF/CF until Dom and Jones find their way.
    You also get a trade for Torres that is worth it.
    Admittedly I haven’t watched a lot of Reynolds. But as far as numbers go, he’s good. But I wouldn’t trade a guy like Dom for him. If he continues on the track he’s going, there’s no reason to think he can’t produce at a similar rate, at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Admittedly I haven’t watched a lot of Reynolds. But as far as numbers go, he’s good. But I wouldn’t trade a guy like Dom for him. If he continues on the track he’s going, there’s no reason to think he can’t produce at a similar rate, at least
    reynolds struck out 140 times last year in 540 at bats yet some people think he is a contact hitter.

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    Reynolds is getting incredibly overrated at this point IMO. He put up awful defensive numbers in CF last year and took a step back with the bat. He’s still a good player, but he is not worth an elite prospect package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLES3658 View Post
    Reynolds is getting incredibly overrated at this point IMO. He put up awful defensive numbers in CF last year and took a step back with the bat. He’s still a good player, but he is not worth an elite prospect package.
    That’s kind of the impression I got. Again, haven’t really watched a ton of him. Not impressed enough to make that kind of move. Wouldn’t be nearly as bad as dealing all that for Montass, but I’d pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    oh, for sure not what I would do, but would you really put that past Cashman? I do think they consider Reynolds a star, but he's probably not a top 25 player.

    I 100% agree with you about Dom, he's starting to look like he could live up to most of the hype. He's gotten his swing down from the RH side and since he's done that, he's been on an absolute tear.

    The one thing that may factor into their willingness to trade Dom would be Spencer Jones. He's right behind Dom, has a much, much higher chance to stick in CF and talent wise IMO, they aren't that far apart.

    Dom's 1 of 4-5 guys in the system I absolutely wouldn't trade, but especially after what Cashman gave away at the deadline, I just don't trust him not to move those guys. My untouchable are Volpe, Peraza, Arias and to a slightly lesser extent Dom and Jones.

    I think it's very, very likely Wells, Sweeney and Pereira will be moved at some point in the future, because they really aren't great fits positionally on this roster.
    I'm a huge Dom fan. I read a few articles recently alluding to his lack of hustle. Have you heard anything in this regard? I hate watching players who don't bring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    That’s kind of the impression I got. Again, haven’t really watched a ton of him. Not impressed enough to make that kind of move. Wouldn’t be nearly as bad as dealing all that for Montass, but I’d pass
    Even with Dom being overrated, I’d consider him a far better prospect than anything that went in the Montas trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLES3658 View Post
    Even with Dom being overrated, I’d consider him a far better prospect than anything that went in the Montas trade.
    Yeah definitely, didn’t mean it like that. More like I’d at least understand the trade, without agreeing with it. The Montas deal made zero sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLES3658 View Post
    Reynolds is getting incredibly overrated at this point IMO. He put up awful defensive numbers in CF last year and took a step back with the bat. He’s still a good player, but he is not worth an elite prospect package.
    I agree. I wonder if they would do a Reynolds for Torres straight up?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Yeah definitely, didn’t mean it like that. More like I’d at least understand the trade, without agreeing with it. The Montas deal made zero sense
    For sure considering he at the time had a shoulder issue. That was just insane. However, going forward, if the shoulder is healthy then I think he ends up being pretty solid next year at least. I trust Blake to get him straightened out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I agree. I wonder if they would do a Reynolds for Torres straight up?
    I think Reynolds has a decent bit more value than that and from a player perspective, the Pirates are likely going after prospects because they don’t want to pay anyone and would want more control.

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