Off Season Thread- 2022-2023

[drt1010]

Clown we are in complete agreement. I never understood the move to let Gio go and bring in an aging JD. I wanted Gio at 3B.

I tend to agree JD's bat may be slowing as evidenced by the career high in K's. I expect it will only get worse. You are NOT off the mark, in fact spot on imo. His best years are well behind JD and Yankees are paying an absurd $21.7M for sub par performance. He is well past his prime years, but yet you ship out a guy in the midst of his prime production! Horrid decision imo.

[Webslinger]

Clown we are in complete agreement. I never understood the move to let Gio go and bring in an aging JD. I wanted Gio at 3B.

I tend to agree JD's bat may be slowing as evidenced by the career high in K's. I expect it will only get worse. You are NOT off the mark, in fact spot on imo. His best years are well behind JD and Yankees are paying an absurd $21.7M for sub par performance. He is well past his prime years, but yet you ship out a guy in the midst of his prime production! Horrid decision imo.

JD is actually owed 27 million, if they excercise his 2024 buyout, which I suspect they will. The yankees didn't need JD's 50 million but it was the price to pay for IKF and to a lesser extent Rortvedt.

[drt1010]

JD is actually owed 27 million, if they excercise his 2024 buyout, which I suspect they will. The yankees didn't need JD's 50 million but it was the price to pay for IKF and to a lesser extent Rortvedt.

Oh now that you mention it, IKF made it all worthwhile! Rortvedt? Is he still alive?

That said I get it.

[ShadyOne]

Are you certain?

Gio led the AL in fielding % at 3B in 2020. He had very good range and a decent arm.

His 2019 slash: 314 .355 .534 .889

His 2020: 298 .368 .490 .858

In 2021: .267 .301 .419 .720

JD in 2022: .222 .308 .374 .682 He had a career high in K's.

Donaldson was a very good player at one time. His best years appear to be behind him. He still has an OK glove (2nd in errors at 3B in 2022) with good range, but at $21.7M per he is a bit pricey and one could question the value. Imo of course.

Gio was almost 10 yrs younger than the 36 yr old Donaldson.

I was kidding

I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didn’t make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio

[drt1010]

I was kidding

I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didn’t make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio

My bad. Apology. I am old and not as quick as I once was. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

[RJYANKS12]

What if we switch our attention away from trading Torres for pitching, we make him the centerpiece of a deal for Bryan Reynolds? Torres, Cabrera, Pereira? Then use the money saved on Benny or Nimmo for Rodon?

Reynolds
DJ
Judge
Rizzo
Stanton
Bader
Volpe
Peraza
Tervino

Cole
Nestor
Rodon
Sevy
Montas

Personally, I'd also add Bogaerts (cheapest of the 3 big SS) and go full evil empire. Slide him to 3rd if Volpe needs more time (DJ goes to second)

[YANKSGUY]

I'd miss all of you guys, when I am posting on the SF Giants threads.

I demand you cease and desist immediately. Are you trying to ruin my life? LOL

[ShadyOne]

What if we switch our attention away from trading Torres for pitching, we make him the centerpiece of a deal for Bryan Reynolds? Torres, Cabrera, Pereira? Then use the money saved on Benny or Nimmo for Rodon?

Reynolds
DJ
Judge
Rizzo
Stanton
Bader
Volpe
Peraza
Tervino

Cole
Nestor
Rodon
Sevy
Montas

Personally, I'd also add Bogaerts (cheapest of the 3 big SS) and go full evil empire. Slide him to 3rd if Volpe needs more time (DJ goes to second)

Would PIT want Torres? He’s coming up on a contract. Wouldn’t they just keep Reynolds?

And how good is Reynolds, really? It’s an honest question, I don’t watch him much.

[Kinkotheclown]

I was kidding

I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didn’t make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio

Ohhhhhhh. You don't say, dooooooo you?

[Kinkotheclown]

Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

Yankees: Aaron Hicks
Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- he’s owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees aren’t likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

From his pen to Cashman's ears

[ShadyOne]

Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

Yankees: Aaron Hicks
Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- he’s owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees aren’t likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

From his pen to Cashman's ears

So he should be simple to trade. As he’s so damn good, and not expensive. 30/30 waiting to happen

Apparently, been waiting 10 seasons to happen. Maybe a half decent shot at 10/10

[metswon69]

Don't know what Feinsand is thinking to be honest. Unless the Yankees eat a significant part of his remaining money, no one is taking Hicks. He should really be DFA'd though.

[RJYANKS12]

Would PIT want Torres? He’s coming up on a contract. Wouldn’t they just keep Reynolds?

And how good is Reynolds, really? It’s an honest question, I don’t watch him much.

They would get 2 more years of Torres, plus 6 of both Cabrera and Pereira. Sliding Torres into their infield with Cruz and Hayes would make it very formidable. As always, it's a place to start.

And just to compare Reynolds to Bennintendi...Benny had a career year, posting his second highest ever ops+ at 120 (123 is his highest). Reynolds had his worst year and posted an ops+ of 126.

[dayners81]

Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

Yankees: Aaron Hicks
Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- he’s owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees aren’t likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

From his pen to Cashman's ears

Whatever he's taking, I want some. He's out of his mind if he really thinks that

Yanks best trade chips
1 Nestor
2 Peraza
3 Cabrera
4 Torres
5 IKF

NO, I am not advocating trading Nestor or the kids, but if you look who would be the most appealing chips, those are it. Maybe u add Lo or Holmes to that list also

[dayners81]

They would get 2 more years of Torres, plus 6 of both Cabrera and Pereira. Sliding Torres into their infield with Cruz and Hayes would make it very formidable. As always, it's a place to start.

And just to compare Reynolds to Bennintendi...Benny had a career year, posting his second highest ever ops+ at 120 (123 is his highest). Reynolds had his worst year and posted an ops+ of 126.

Love the idea, I'd love to have Reynolds but Torres, Cabrera and Pereria isn't enough to get Reynolds IMO . I think it would still take Dom, but after the 2nd half he had, I'm not trading him.

I absolutely hate, hate saying this, but I think they go more stop gap in LF. Dom finished the yr on a 2 1/2 month absolute tear through High A and AA. IF, big if, Dom hits at the start of next yr the way he finished last yr? he's our LFer by August