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  1. #391
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    Clown we are in complete agreement. I never understood the move to let Gio go and bring in an aging JD. I wanted Gio at 3B.

    I tend to agree JD's bat may be slowing as evidenced by the career high in K's. I expect it will only get worse. You are NOT off the mark, in fact spot on imo. His best years are well behind JD and Yankees are paying an absurd $21.7M for sub par performance. He is well past his prime years, but yet you ship out a guy in the midst of his prime production! Horrid decision imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Clown we are in complete agreement. I never understood the move to let Gio go and bring in an aging JD. I wanted Gio at 3B.

    I tend to agree JD's bat may be slowing as evidenced by the career high in K's. I expect it will only get worse. You are NOT off the mark, in fact spot on imo. His best years are well behind JD and Yankees are paying an absurd $21.7M for sub par performance. He is well past his prime years, but yet you ship out a guy in the midst of his prime production! Horrid decision imo.
    JD is actually owed 27 million, if they excercise his 2024 buyout, which I suspect they will. The yankees didn't need JD's 50 million but it was the price to pay for IKF and to a lesser extent Rortvedt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    JD is actually owed 27 million, if they excercise his 2024 buyout, which I suspect they will. The yankees didn't need JD's 50 million but it was the price to pay for IKF and to a lesser extent Rortvedt.
    Oh now that you mention it, IKF made it all worthwhile! Rortvedt? Is he still alive?

    That said I get it.

  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Are you certain?

    Gio led the AL in fielding % at 3B in 2020. He had very good range and a decent arm.

    His 2019 slash: 314 .355 .534 .889

    His 2020: 298 .368 .490 .858

    In 2021: .267 .301 .419 .720

    JD in 2022: .222 .308 .374 .682 He had a career high in K's.

    Donaldson was a very good player at one time. His best years appear to be behind him. He still has an OK glove (2nd in errors at 3B in 2022) with good range, but at $21.7M per he is a bit pricey and one could question the value. Imo of course.

    Gio was almost 10 yrs younger than the 36 yr old Donaldson.
    I was kidding

    I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didnít make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio
    Last edited by ShadyOne; 11-10-2022 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    I was kidding

    I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didnít make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio
    My bad. Apology. I am old and not as quick as I once was. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

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    What if we switch our attention away from trading Torres for pitching, we make him the centerpiece of a deal for Bryan Reynolds? Torres, Cabrera, Pereira? Then use the money saved on Benny or Nimmo for Rodon?

    Reynolds
    DJ
    Judge
    Rizzo
    Stanton
    Bader
    Volpe
    Peraza
    Tervino

    Cole
    Nestor
    Rodon
    Sevy
    Montas

    Personally, I'd also add Bogaerts (cheapest of the 3 big SS) and go full evil empire. Slide him to 3rd if Volpe needs more time (DJ goes to second)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    I'd miss all of you guys, when I am posting on the SF Giants threads.
    I demand you cease and desist immediately. Are you trying to ruin my life? LOL
    The REAL DEAL Yankee fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJYANKS12 View Post
    What if we switch our attention away from trading Torres for pitching, we make him the centerpiece of a deal for Bryan Reynolds? Torres, Cabrera, Pereira? Then use the money saved on Benny or Nimmo for Rodon?

    Reynolds
    DJ
    Judge
    Rizzo
    Stanton
    Bader
    Volpe
    Peraza
    Tervino

    Cole
    Nestor
    Rodon
    Sevy
    Montas

    Personally, I'd also add Bogaerts (cheapest of the 3 big SS) and go full evil empire. Slide him to 3rd if Volpe needs more time (DJ goes to second)
    Would PIT want Torres? Heís coming up on a contract. Wouldnít they just keep Reynolds?

    And how good is Reynolds, really? Itís an honest question, I donít watch him much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    I was kidding

    I hated getting JD. I would have never made that deal. I guess I didnít make the sarcasm obvious enough lol. I would have gladly kept Gio
    Ohhhhhhh. You don't say, dooooooo you?




    Ignorance is bliss

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    Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

    Yankees: Aaron Hicks
    Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- heís owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees arenít likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

    From his pen to Cashman's ears



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

    Yankees: Aaron Hicks
    Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- heís owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees arenít likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

    From his pen to Cashman's ears
    So he should be simple to trade. As heís so damn good, and not expensive. 30/30 waiting to happen

    Apparently, been waiting 10 seasons to happen. Maybe a half decent shot at 10/10

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    Don't know what Feinsand is thinking to be honest. Unless the Yankees eat a significant part of his remaining money, no one is taking Hicks. He should really be DFA'd though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Would PIT want Torres? Heís coming up on a contract. Wouldnít they just keep Reynolds?

    And how good is Reynolds, really? Itís an honest question, I donít watch him much.
    They would get 2 more years of Torres, plus 6 of both Cabrera and Pereira. Sliding Torres into their infield with Cruz and Hayes would make it very formidable. As always, it's a place to start.

    And just to compare Reynolds to Bennintendi...Benny had a career year, posting his second highest ever ops+ at 120 (123 is his highest). Reynolds had his worst year and posted an ops+ of 126.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Feinstand - Bet trade chips for each team

    Yankees: Aaron Hicks
    Hicks lost his everyday job this season, and although he is coming off a down year, his contract -- heís owed roughly $30 million over the next three seasons -- is reasonable. Other teams might view the 33-year-old as a change-of-scenery candidate, while the Yankees arenít likely to ask for a big return in any deal.

    From his pen to Cashman's ears
    Whatever he's taking, I want some. He's out of his mind if he really thinks that

    Yanks best trade chips
    1 Nestor
    2 Peraza
    3 Cabrera
    4 Torres
    5 IKF

    NO, I am not advocating trading Nestor or the kids, but if you look who would be the most appealing chips, those are it. Maybe u add Lo or Holmes to that list also

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJYANKS12 View Post
    They would get 2 more years of Torres, plus 6 of both Cabrera and Pereira. Sliding Torres into their infield with Cruz and Hayes would make it very formidable. As always, it's a place to start.

    And just to compare Reynolds to Bennintendi...Benny had a career year, posting his second highest ever ops+ at 120 (123 is his highest). Reynolds had his worst year and posted an ops+ of 126.
    Love the idea, I'd love to have Reynolds but Torres, Cabrera and Pereria isn't enough to get Reynolds IMO . I think it would still take Dom, but after the 2nd half he had, I'm not trading him.

    I absolutely hate, hate saying this, but I think they go more stop gap in LF. Dom finished the yr on a 2 1/2 month absolute tear through High A and AA. IF, big if, Dom hits at the start of next yr the way he finished last yr? he's our LFer by August

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