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  1. #3376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    Profar does not move the needle for me.

    Would rather them give a legit shot to Florial and if he fails then try for a trade at the deadline or hand it over to Cabrera if he is playing well. Trade being the best option... but worst case scenario maybe one of the prospects put of Dunham, Pereira, or Dominguez is ready by mid-season. If not, absolute worst case scenario if Florial is worse than Hicks was in 2022, and Oswaldo regresses, and no trade can be made then Hicks is still there as the backup and while he stinks, at he is a known commodity. For the record though, I do believe if the Yankees go into the postseason with Hicks or someone not much better than Hicks in LF, they will again fail to make the world series.
    good points. I absolutely agree that i'd far rather go with Flo than Profar. If that doesn't workout, upgrade by the deadline.

    I just want nothing to do with Hicks, he was so bad last yr. He had that one big HR last yr and thats about the extent of what he did well last yr. Lets not forget how much Boone defended him and the first chance Hicks got he threw Boone under the bus with the Roberts/Gallo comments.

    If I really thought we would give Flo an extended chance, I'd be thrilled. I just don't think they'll actually do it.

    Here's another option out there for us, Andujar was released by the Pirates today. Watch them sign him to an MILB deal, poor bastard
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Except for the fact that Arraez has been the more productive player both in '22 and over the prior three seasons combined. Torres is a better fielder and hits more bombs but Arraez has regularly put up a higher fWAR and wRC+.

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    how come they donít show fWAR and wRC+ during the games on TV?

    i love stats but if you canít show me how you came up with those numbers in 3 seconds then the stat is worthless to the casual baseball fan.

    Stat geeks overcomplicated these stupid numbers IMO.

    And how do you get WAR?

    Quick! tell me how!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    how come they donít show fWAR and wRC+ during the games on TV?

    i love stats but if you canít show me how you came up with those numbers in 3 seconds then the stat is worthless to the casual baseball fan.

    Stat geeks overcomplicated these stupid numbers IMO.

    And how do you get WAR?

    Quick! tell me how!
    Honest opinion, stat geeks as you call them, don't watch BB they read box scores and stat sheets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    how come they donít show fWAR and wRC+ during the games on TV?
    Because the average fan is stuck in the past and/or too casually in to the sport to bother learning what anything more than the most basic stats illustrate. It's not anything to get worked up about unless you're someone that is threatened by the availability of more information.

    If you didn't fall in either of those camps, you'd likely already know how both of those stats work. All of this stuff can be easily researched online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Because the average fan is stuck in the past and/or too casually in to the sport to bother learning what anything more than the most basic stats illustrate. It's not anything to get worked up about unless you're someone that is threatened by the availability of more information.

    If you didn't fall in either of those camps, you'd likely already know how both of those stats work. All of this stuff can be easily researched online.
    iím probably more of a stat fan than what you areÖ.iíve been following baseball stats since 1977. i know what those newer stats are i just donít care for them and neither does the casual fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    iím probably more of a stat fan than what you areÖ.iíve been following baseball stats since 1977. i know what those newer stats are i just donít care for them and neither does the casual fan.
    "I know all about the new stats and don't care for them. Classic stats like average tell you everything you need to know."

    Lmao Mush you do not have the slightest clue about advanced stats.

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    The new stats are just like anything else. They are useful but they need to be taken into context with the whole picture. Just because a player's OPS is .850 doesn't mean it's OK to have an average of .200. Just because the WAR is 5 doesn't mean the fact that he is a hack in the field can be completely ignored. Just because the UZR is bad doesn't mean that the fielding percentage of 99% should be completely ignored. You've got to take all of these stats into consideration, look at the whole player, and see how he fits into your team. If winning the world series was as easy as signing the highest WAR player in free agency every season then the Mets would have likely won last year and will likely win this year as well. I don't think it's that simple though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    The new stats are just like anything else. They are useful but they need to be taken into context with the whole picture. Just because a player's OPS is .850 doesn't mean it's OK to have an average of .200. Just because the WAR is 5 doesn't mean the fact that he is a hack in the field can be completely ignored. Just because the UZR is bad doesn't mean that the fielding percentage of 99% should be completely ignored. You've got to take all of these stats into consideration, look at the whole player, and see how he fits into your team. If winning the world series was as easy as signing the highest WAR player in free agency every season then the Mets would have likely won last year and will likely win this year as well. I don't think it's that simple though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    iím probably more of a stat fan than what you areÖ.iíve been following baseball stats since 1977. i know what those newer stats are i just donít care for them and neither does the casual fan.
    Like I said....

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    Stats need to be used as tools, not the rules.

    Hopefully Sabean and Mineya will be able to bridge that gap between Cashman and the anals dept.

    I'd like to drop Fishman of the coast of S Africa in shark alley with about half a cow attached to him. Let the Great White sharks deal with him. That or a bunch of Nile crocs, i'd be fine with either
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Like I said....
    Stat geeks have ruined the Yankees chances in the past 5 years.

    if I was Hal I would have fired their butts a few years ago!

    Sabean and Minaya will get us back to where we need to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Stat geeks have ruined the Yankees chances in the past 5 years.
    That's some next level cope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    That's some next level cope.
    I tend to agree with him.
    If the stats and anals are the things governing choices for who they pick and who they play?
    Add to that, that stats were one of the things Cashman cited when they had all righty bats. All those players hit righties and lefties, statically well.

    Most damning?
    IKF is an excellent SS according to their anals.

    This team's build is predicated on Fishman's system.

    Players play. With that I agree and they haven't performed when it was needed. That's the point. Their stats suggest they should have.
    Stats don't count for everything. They are a tool for evaluation. But the Yankees have been beholden to them. That's where they have consistently shot themselves in the foot.
    I hope that changes. You just need some actual baseball people involved to see if guys make sense for a team and its needs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I tend to agree with him.
    If the stats and anals are the things governing choices for who they pick and who they play?
    Add to that, that stats were one of the things Cashman cited when they had all righty bats. All those players hit righties and lefties, statically well.

    Most damning?
    IKF is an excellent SS according to their anals.

    This team's build is predicated on Fishman's system.

    Players play. With that I agree and they haven't performed when it was needed. That's the point. Their stats suggest they should have.
    Stats don't count for everything. They are a tool for evaluation. But the Yankees have been beholden to them. That's where they have consistently shot themselves in the foot.
    I hope that changes. You just need some actual baseball people involved to see if guys make sense for a team and its needs.

    The eye test can also determine mental makeup of a player. Stats donít tell us anything with mental makeup. Stats tell us if a pitcher is very good in Yankee Stadium but when he plays for the Yankees his past stats and that is what the anals use, the past stats, are then nowhere to be found because he is mentally weak when playing for the Yankees.

    I can name at least 5 decent starters who were signed or traded for and then flopped as a Yankee because they didnít have what it takes inside their little head to perform well under the pressures of NY.

    Sonny Gray was mentally weak in NY. But letís just solely blame Rothschild. Look, maybe some come on the guy was weak. You could see it in his face. And when you feel the pressure you canít throw the ball where you want to. But the anals said his numbers will be terrific with the Yankees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    good points. I absolutely agree that i'd far rather go with Flo than Profar. If that doesn't workout, upgrade by the deadline.

    I just want nothing to do with Hicks, he was so bad last yr. He had that one big HR last yr and thats about the extent of what he did well last yr. Lets not forget how much Boone defended him and the first chance Hicks got he threw Boone under the bus with the Roberts/Gallo comments.

    If I really thought we would give Flo an extended chance, I'd be thrilled. I just don't think they'll actually do it.

    Here's another option out there for us, Andujar was released by the Pirates today. Watch them sign him to an MILB deal, poor bastard
    Flo is trash. They will have to trade for somebody at the deadline for LF. Flo canít hit and that is the reason they got Bader. They got tired of waiting around for Flo. He should have been up and starting for the past 2 years.
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    3. I Me Mine
    4. A Day in the Life
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    6. Let it Be
    7. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
    8. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite
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