Off Season Thread- 2022-2023

[Kinkotheclown]

Well that's that.

Let's start listing our hopes, desires and complaints for this off season.

[Kinkotheclown]

Dream list

1-Cashman goes

2-Boone goes

3-sign Judge

4-Trade JD, DJ and Hicks I love DJ but if this team wants to commit to Torres, I think they need to move on from him. IKF can be your utility player.

5-Let Beni walk- I like him but who knows how quickly Dom will be ready. Cabrera getting regular reps in LF will be fine.

6-Let Marwin walk

7-Keep the pitching staff and development


What I think happens
1-Hal praises Cashman and Boone
2-Cashman praises Boone
3-Judge walks because he sees what a **** show the FO is
4-The team goes desperation and overpays for Correa
5-They trade Peraza, Dom and Cabrera for a questionable pitcher.
6- They rush Volpe and Dom to the majors to quiet the fanbase and screw up their development.
7-Then they use their lack of ability to develop as a rational for trading specs for proven vets.

[johnnyi]

The first obvious thing to do is to sign Judge. He did run out of gas in the playoffs this year. The other obvious thing is that we all seem to want Cashman and Boone gone, but I'll focus on the players.

We need left handed hitting and pitching. Especially hitting, to get by the Astros dominant RH pitching both starters and in the bullpen. However, I don't know what we do about the hitting. Do we sign Benni and /or Carpenter? Will they be looking for more money than they're worth. Is signing Benni to a multi-year contract a smart thing to do? Anything more than 2-3 years is insane given what we have in the minor leagues. If Rizzo opts out do we re-sign him for more money and years, maybe another 2 year contract.

As for pitching, trading Waldichuck s/b a fireable offense and acquiring Montas should be even worse. I don't know what's available, probably some underperformer, somewhere, that our pitching gurus can resurrect. Otherwise, don't see a LH starter that would be available. Even the Japanese pitcher is RH and he might be better in the bullpen anyway.

Our best strategy, at this point, is to see what older players in the infield we can trade away to make room for younger minor leaguers. HIggy should be an easy move, because teams in need of a catcher won't blink at his salary. Then we can bring up Rohr for a lefty backup to Trevino. Donaldson and Hicks must go. Higgy should be paired with one of them and Montas with the other just to get rid of them. IKF is a waste and his days at SS should be over, but I'd be indifferent to keeping him, if it was to keep 3B warm for Volpe, when he's ready. LoCastro should not be on any roster in the majors.

Obviously Chapman, Britain and Green are gone.

[Tg11]

I wouldn't be surprised if Judge leaves this offseason especially after they got swept and he rejected the last offer on the extension which was 7 years $213 million

[EAGLES3658]

I wouldn't be surprised if Judge leaves this offseason especially after they got swept and he rejected the last offer on the extension which was 7 years $213 million

Yes. One, the Yankees handled that situation poorly. It wasn’t awful, but it did seem like the Yankees released the numbers in attempt to be like, “hey, we made a strong offer and this guy may not want to be here as much as he says he does.” Two, if the Yankees bring back both Cashman and Boone(likely) then why would Judge want to come back? It would just be more of the same. At the end of the day, money talks. But if a better run organization offers the same money, then I can’t blame Judge one bit for leaving.

[ShadyOne]

I’m fine with clearing out most of the lineup, and going with somewhat of a “rebuilding” year. Do whatever you can to move out JD, and Hicks. Let IKF move on. Peraza is the SS. Make sure Cabrera gets plenty of ABs.

[OhSoSlick]

Well whatever they are going to do, the #1 priority will be GM position. Cashman contract is up.


I think it's past time for fresh voices. Believe a majority of the upper management has been in the positions for over 15 years.

I don't think Cashman leaves. I think he will be moved to a new position in the front office, they'll elevate a new puppet for him to control and it'll just continue the same ******** that's been going on.

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[OhSoSlick]

Doubt much changes unless this changes.

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[OhSoSlick]

The Yankees thought that using David Ortiz to call the team to talk about the red sox comeback in 04 vs the yankees was a great idea.

Whoever thought of that needs to be punted into the next galaxy.

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[Kinkotheclown]

Doubt much changes unless this changes.

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I agree. The anals are piss poor but they are Cashman's baby so like Boone, I am sure they have done a great job. The players just didn't live up to the numbers the Anals suggested. That's is because Anals play the games, not players.
If players played, that would mean the Yankees would actually need to have people who could evaluate non anal aspects of players. Heaven forfend, that happen.

I will say, I have never seen this much bad press for the Yankees and specifically Cashman and Boone. There are tons of articles, op-eds, blogs... shelling Cashman and Boone.

If Hal comes out in support, nothing will change.
He's been quiet. The next couple days will be telling. If he was smart, he would make quick and decisive decisions, whatever they are. The longer he lets this fester, the weaker he will look.

[Kinkotheclown]

The Yankees thought that using David Ortiz to call the team to talk about the red sox comeback in 04 vs the yankees was a great idea.

Whoever thought of that needs to be punted into the next galaxy.

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Lol. Ortiz probably told them the exact opposite of what they did.

Can you imagine the entire Yankee clubhouse doing a shot of Jack? Lol. That's what the sox apparently did for game 4. They said, "**** it. Let's go have some fun"

The Yankees instead ended up losing on a play at which the GG caliber SS, was the center

[ShadyOne]

Cashman has to go, or be moved, or whatever. There’s really no justification for him staying.

If he’s still the GM, I’m going to find it very hard to care about this team next year

[Kinkotheclown]

Cashman has to go, or be moved, or whatever. There’s really no justification for him staying.

If he’s still the GM, I’m going to find it very hard to care about this team next year

The sad truth it it doesn't matter. They genuinely don't give 2 shites about the actual fans. They care about, money, the brand and getting to the post season.

In their mind, mission accomplished.

[EAGLES3658]

Cashman has to go, or be moved, or whatever. There’s really no justification for him staying.

If he’s still the GM, I’m going to find it very hard to care about this team next year

I’m in the same boat. The second half of this season and playoffs was no enjoyable to watch whatsoever. Cashman’s moves have taken away part of my interest. It’s not that the team is awful, but it’s hard to watch knowing the same exact outcome is going to happen every year. It’s hard to watch when you know what it could’ve been with a competent GM.

[Kinkotheclown]

I found this incredibly interesting and stupid

But Hal Steinbrenner did not want to authorize the long-term mega-funds with a big payday looming for Aaron Judge. So the Yankees took a half measure. They decided to go for a stopgap until Oswaldo Peraza or Anthony Volpe were ready. They liked Kiner-Falefa, but couldn’t get him from Texas, who traded him to Minnesota. The Yanks could get him and a catcher whose defense they liked, Ben Rortvedt, but the blackmail was to take on Josh Donaldson’s two years at $50 million and prickly nature. So, lose-lose.


Watch, Yankees decided to pass on Aaron Judge because Hal felt they had too much money tied up in JD, Hicks and Stanton