Off Season Thread- 2022-2023

[dayners81]

Tyler Hardman also factors into the third base conversation. He had a really good season last year and a tremendous performance in the AFL.

3B - Chapparro, Sweeney, Hardman
SS/2B - Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera
1B - not an immediate need, but keep an eye on TJ Rumfield. He is a big kid who makes a ton of contact and walks a lot. If the Yankees can get him to tap into some power and increase the launch angle he could really take off this year. He could surprise a lot of people this year.

I agree with u about Rumfield and Hardman. I would put them into a similar class as Dunham.

IMO I want the future at 1st base to be Murikami. Yankees want another Asian superstar to up their revenue stream and he's an absolutely perfect fit for the Yanks when he comes over before the 2025 season

[dayners81]

CF/LF - Pereira, Dominguez, Dunham, Cabrera. I'm not as optimistic that two of these guys can fill CF/LF in the future. It's not out of the question though.

They really want Dom to be the future at 1 of those position. Supposedly he has worked a ton over this winter on his reads and routes, so maybe he sticks in CF.

Some are higher on Pereira than they are on Dom.

The Yanks plan on Duhnam getting reps at all 3 OF position and 1st base this yr. He's never going to be a star, but there is something about the kid for me. I think he has a descent MLB career.

When u add Jones in there, IMO that greatly increases the odds we get 2 OFers out of that group

[dayners81]

Breaking: Yankees gold glover Isiah Kiner-Falefa has requested a trade, league sources tell me and
@TheAthletic
. The franchise has been informed that Kiner-Falefa prefers to move on ahead of opening day on March 30th—or will leave in free agency next offseason.

[OhSoSlick]

Other than Turner, Correa or Swanson(all short stops)

Was there really any other free agent position player that would have really moved the needle for this offense?


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[OhSoSlick]

Breaking: Yankees gold glover Isiah Kiner-Falefa has requested a trade, league sources tell me and
@TheAthletic
. The franchise has been informed that Kiner-Falefa prefers to move on ahead of opening day on March 30th—or will leave in free agency next offseason.

You fall for stuff too easily.

I can't add the screen shot but it's not legit.

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[goingfor28]

IKF seems too polite to ask for a trade

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[spliff(TONE)]

Breaking: Yankees gold glover Isiah Kiner-Falefa has requested a trade, league sources tell me and
@TheAthletic
. The franchise has been informed that Kiner-Falefa prefers to move on ahead of opening day on March 30th—or will leave in free agency next offseason.

You fall for stuff too easily.

I can't add the screen shot but it's not legit.

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[Kinkotheclown]

ikf seems too polite to ask for a trade

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tmml

[Kinkotheclown]

Breaking: Yankees gold glover Isiah Kiner-Falefa has requested a trade, league sources tell me and
@TheAthletic
. The franchise has been informed that Kiner-Falefa prefers to move on ahead of opening day on March 30th—or will leave in free agency next offseason.

I am full erect

You fall for stuff too easily.

I can't add the screen shot but it's not legit.

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Boner killer

[Kinkotheclown]

Other than Turner, Correa or Swanson(all short stops)

Was there really any other free agent position player that would have really moved the needle for this offense?


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Gallo. Banning of the shift will really help him cut down on his Ks


There wasn't. Bell? His bat may have been great in YS but Rizzo is so good defensively and in the clubhouse. So I would rather Rizzo.
Ninmo? Healthy, he would have been a decent upgrade over Hicks but the cost probably isn't worth the difference in production

It's true. There were no position players aside from SS that would make a ton of difference.
Now if they could have moved JD and signed one of the guys you mentioned to play 3B? Turner/Xander/Correa a 3B looks quite a bit better than JD.
Then again, a healthy DJ at 3b mitigates that improvement to an extent.

I think the FO's faith in JD and Hicks will be the test.

[dayners81]

You fall for stuff too easily.

I can't add the screen shot but it's not legit.

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you're right, I took that one hook, line and sinker.. lol not the first time, not the last either

whats funnier is I retweeted it, wow not pretty

[hugepatsfan]

Fellas, sme may not like this, but it's starting to be pretty clear what Cashman and the Yanks are thinking when it comes to the lineup.

A few realize this, but we have 7 cnsensus top 100 prospects and with the exception of Jones, have all had success in AA.

We all know about Vople, Peraza, Dom, plus you have Wells who now projects to stay behind the plate and is probably the safest bet in the system to be a .300 hitter with 30 hr power. Sweeney has really opened a lot of people eyes and projects to be an elite defender at 3rd base, with a 250 30 plus hr bat.

Between Volpe, Peraza, Sweeney and Wells that very likely could fill the holes we have at 2B, SS, 3rd and C.

We have 2 long term holes in the OF, Jones, Dom, Pereira and I would add Dunham in that mix as well. Again, everyone listed has had success at AA, except Jones who might have the highest ceiling of all of them, so this isn't some long term pipe dream. All those guys except Volpe, Peraza and Pereira are all SH or LHed.

Thats how they get far more LHed and construct a cheaper lineup in the next 2 seasons

Yeah I agree with this. And honestly, I think it’s a good plan. They splurge in free agency on starting pitching and the lineup is lifted

The frustrating part as a fan is that if you’re trying to keep spots open long-term, that means stop gap solutions. And stop gap solutions are stop gaps for a reason. It can lead to some frustrating players being added.

In general I think people need to shift their thinking from:

“All of the “role players” they’re filling in around Judge/Stanton/Cole/other starters with are underwhelming. This isn’t a team good enough to win the WS and that’s incompetent.”

To

“Like it or not, the organization is building for not the “long” term but not the current year either. They’re in a bit of a transitional phase that should take 1-2 years. They’ve built up a collection of high priced stars who should keep us competitive because fans deserve to watch meaningful games, but their longer term view has led to some underwhelming stop gaps but that’s a necessary evil of building that way.”

Now, my issue is that I don’t think Cashman has proven to be the right guy to lead through that transition phase. But I don’t have any problem with them going that route as a strategy - I actually love it.

Out of Jones/Dominguez/Peraza/Volpe/Wells/Sweeney/Pereia/Cabrera it’s not outlandish to think you could get 4-5 good everyday players. You’ve also made mention of Yurikama over in Japan who’s another young player they could bring in down the line. The payroll dynamic of this roster totally shifts if you get half the lineup filled by youth like that.

[dayners81]

Yeah I agree with this. And honestly, I think it’s a good plan. They splurge in free agency on starting pitching and the lineup is lifted

The frustrating part as a fan is that if you’re trying to keep spots open long-term, that means stop gap solutions. And stop gap solutions are stop gaps for a reason. It can lead to some frustrating players being added.

In general I think people need to shift their thinking from:

“All of the “role players” they’re filling in around Judge/Stanton/Cole/other starters with are underwhelming. This isn’t a team good enough to win the WS and that’s incompetent.”

To

“Like it or not, the organization is building for not the “long” term but not the current year either. They’re in a bit of a transitional phase that should take 1-2 years. They’ve built up a collection of high priced stars who should keep us competitive because fans deserve to watch meaningful games, but their longer term view has led to some underwhelming stop gaps but that’s a necessary evil of building that way.”

Now, my issue is that I don’t think Cashman has proven to be the right guy to lead through that transition phase. But I don’t have any problem with them going that route as a strategy - I actually love it.

Out of Jones/Dominguez/Peraza/Volpe/Wells/Sweeney/Pereia/Cabrera it’s not outlandish to think you could get 4-5 good everyday players. You’ve also made mention of Yurikama over in Japan who’s another young player they could bring in down the line. The payroll dynamic of this roster totally shifts if you get half the lineup filled by youth like that.

I mentioned this earlier, but with the exception of Jones they all have had success in AA. AA is usually a solid predictor that if u can excel at AA, most should be able to have some level of success in the MLB.

I would add Dunham to that group also. The reports I've gotten about what he's been working on are fantastic. He's worked on his speed and arm so that he can play all 3 OF position and is working at 1st base as well.

I completely agree that we should be able to get 4-5 plus above avg regulars from that group. I would be surprised if 2-3 weren't much better than that though.

Then before the 25 season, Murikami is an absolute must. He'll be 25 then and the perfect age to fit in with the new core.

If they keep and succeed with some of those kids, we'll be younger, cheaper, faster, more LH and more athletic

[Chapin78]

I was listening to a show and they brought up an interesting thing about the bullpen and Holmes. Yes the pen is stacked that wasn’t an argument. The question asked was how long is Holmes leash? Boone does tend to stick with players quite a bit longer than maybe most other managers. What if…..Holmes starts off 10 of 11 in save opportunities and then goes 1 of 3 in save opportunities???? Does the NY media turn on him??

Just a curious scenario that was brought up.


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[dayners81]

I was listening to a show and they brought up an interesting thing about the bullpen and Holmes. Yes the pen is stacked that wasn’t an argument. The question asked was how long is Holmes leash? Boone does tend to stick with players quite a bit longer than maybe most other managers. What if…..Holmes starts off 10 of 11 in save opportunities and then goes 1 of 3 in save opportunities???? Does the NY media turn on him??

Just a curious scenario that was brought up.


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Boone probably sticks with Holmes, but I also think we'll see alot of Lo and Marinaccio closing games this yr. With as stacked as we are in the BP, does defined roles even make sense? Holmes, Wandy, King, Lo, Marrinaccio and even Trivino could close. I think it's probably smarter if they went with the matchups that favor us