2022-2023 Cubs Offseason Free Agent & Trade Thread

[CP_414]

This Bally’s bankruptcy/RSN meltdown happening right now is a pretty huge story for the future of mlb finances. If the Ricketts told the truth about the health of marquee the cubs should have an even larger financial advantage over the rest of the division for a while. Doesn’t matter if they don’t spend it, of course. It sounds like the cards in particular might be hit hard by the Bally issues.

[Stratos]

I wasn't providing any kind of philosophy, I was just giving my observation/opinion that their current roster don't really have anyone that worthwhile to build around or in better wording, that will be a piece to a future window that'll probably start opening a little in 2025..

IMO, I don't think Suzuki will be around for his full contract, I think he'll eventually get traded. Nico will likely get traded or leave via FA, and Swanson, they better hope his power is legit and they can eventually move him to 3B in a couple seasons.

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Well Nico will be a FA in a few years so he may be near his exit by the time this time is good if there's no extension so we'll see. If Suzuki for some reason leaves thats money they can spend in FA.

Otherwise, you look at the Cubs top 20 prospects and they're all solid who could easily end up as decent MLB players or better. Though of course half of them will probably fail and it would be nice to have more top 30 type elite prospects.

[thawv]

Not sure then in’s can take $12M and stay under the LT.

They are about 17 million under the LT. Should and could are not the issue. This question is, will they be interested in adding to payroll before the season starts?

[thawv]

This Bally’s bankruptcy/RSN meltdown happening right now is a pretty huge story for the future of mlb finances. If the Ricketts told the truth about the health of marquee the cubs should have an even larger financial advantage over the rest of the division for a while. Doesn’t matter if they don’t spend it, of course. It sounds like the cards in particular might be hit hard by the Bally issues.

You're right. I sounds like Diamond Sports doesn't have enough to pay the teams they are in agreement with. That's a big chunk off of those teams financials. The Cubs could/should try to take advantage of this situation. I mean, they already had a huge financial advantage in their division before this.

Now I'm thinking that because others may have less financial flexibility, the Cubs will feel like they can spend less and still keep their only advantage to being a major market.

[rcal10]

They are about 17 million under the LT. Should and could are not the issue. This question is, will they be interested in adding to payroll before the season starts?

I didn’t think they had that much after Mancini. I thought more like $10M to $12M. And they will want to keep some in the event they add.

That said, I agree Peralta is not an option. Yankees would never get rid of him. But I think Torres is available. As to the Cubs having what is needed to get him, I doubt it. Cubs would have to center a deal around Madrigal and Wisdom plus a prospect. Not a top one either. But who knows what teams like. Look at the A’s with that stupid Contreras trade. Maybe the Cubs are in a 3 team deal where they come away with Torres and the Yankees and whoever else is involved get what they want too. Actually my only point was I agreed with whoever suggested “maybe a Torres deal, and that is it for the off season”. That is what I thought would be great. And the Cubs could take his contract while losing whatever they pay Wisdom and Madrigal.

[rcal10]

This Bally’s bankruptcy/RSN meltdown happening right now is a pretty huge story for the future of mlb finances. If the Ricketts told the truth about the health of marquee the cubs should have an even larger financial advantage over the rest of the division for a while. Doesn’t matter if they don’t spend it, of course. It sounds like the cards in particular might be hit hard by the Bally issues.

The problem with this is I am not sure which is less likely. Ricketts telling the truth about marquee or the Cubs taking advantage of their financial strength over the rest of the least. Both seem to be not likely.

[thawv]

I didn’t think they had that much after Mancini. I thought more like $10M to $12M. And they will want to keep some in the event they add.

That said, I agree Peralta is not an option. Yankees would never get rid of him. But I think Torres is available. As to the Cubs having what is needed to get him, I doubt it. Cubs would have to center a deal around Madrigal and Wisdom plus a prospect. Not a top one either. But who knows what teams like. Look at the A’s with that stupid Contreras trade. Maybe the Cubs are in a 3 team deal where they come away with Torres and the Yankees and whoever else is involved get what they want too. Actually my only point was I agreed with whoever suggested “maybe a Torres deal, and that is it for the off season”. That is what I thought would be great. And the Cubs could take his contract while losing whatever they pay Wisdom and Madrigal.

With Mancini's cash in the number, they are at about 216.2 million.

I'll admit that I have no idea what the Yankees needs are. So, without knowing what the Yankees are looking for, I think that something like Torres for Madgrigal and Triantos would be pretty fair. Yes, I think that Madrigal and Wisdom plus a no name prospect would do it.

[petrey10]

This Bally’s bankruptcy/RSN meltdown happening right now is a pretty huge story for the future of mlb finances. If the Ricketts told the truth about the health of marquee the cubs should have an even larger financial advantage over the rest of the division for a while. Doesn’t matter if they don’t spend it, of course. It sounds like the cards in particular might be hit hard by the Bally issues.

It’s is mine blowing the MLB has such blackout restrictions. It’s the reason baseball is dying. Make the game accessible to everyone. Every team. Stop this stupid 100yr old regional garbage.

[Dfan25]

They are about 17 million under the LT. Should and could are not the issue. This question is, will they be interested in adding to payroll before the season starts?

You are probably using sportrac . Most sites have them at 221.3 to 222. I think spotrac has 22 / 40 man roster players listed with no salary . Maybe there is about 10 milllion in that group ? I read on the Athletic and BN that they are about 11 million below the tax line . Roster resource has them approaching 222 million.


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It’s is mine blowing the MLB has such blackout restrictions. It’s the reason baseball is dying. Make the game accessible to everyone. Every team. Stop this stupid 100yr old regional garbage.

Tbf, isn't basically every major sport doing similar?

[CP_414]

It’s is mine blowing the MLB has such blackout restrictions. It’s the reason baseball is dying. Make the game accessible to everyone. Every team. Stop this stupid 100yr old regional garbage.

This will eventually lead to the end of the blackouts. Blackouts exist because the teams get so much money from RSN’s that they need to force people to pay for cable to get games. With the RSNs dying and mlb taking control of their content they’ll open it up for everyone to pay to access directly. Even with that change I imagine there will be some big short term revenue decreases across the league.

[chibears55]

Well Nico will be a FA in a few years so he may be near his exit by the time this time is good if there's no extension so we'll see. If Suzuki for some reason leaves thats money they can spend in FA.

Otherwise, you look at the Cubs top 20 prospects and they're all solid who could easily end up as decent MLB players or better. Though of course half of them will probably fail and it would be nice to have more top 30 type elite prospects.

This season as far as position players goes, we should hopefully see these prospects come up and stay at some point this season, along with maybe a couple of surprises.
Amaya, Davis, Mervis, Canairo, and Hill
Plus, we need to see if Morel and Velasquez have adjusted for the better

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[cuzi]

This season as far as position players goes, we should hopefully see these prospects come up and stay at some point this season, along with maybe a couple of surprises.
Amaya, Davis, Mervis, Canairo, and Hill
Plus, we need to see if Morel and Velasquez have adjusted for the better

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Mervis and Davis are probably the only 2 prospects that might see more than a meaningless amount of MLB PAs this season.

Velasquez should probably never see Wrigley field from the home bench again in his career. He's already buried on the 40 man depth chart and he's getting passed up by other prospects now. He needs to be packaged with someone at the deadline if he shows any ability in the minors.

[rcal10]

Mervis and Davis are probably the only 2 prospects that might see more than a meaningless amount of MLB PAs this season.

Velasquez should probably never see Wrigley field from the home bench again in his career. He's already buried on the 40 man depth chart and he's getting passed up by other prospects now. He needs to be packaged with someone at the deadline if he shows any ability in the minors.

I think that is a way too early criticism of Velesquez. You might end up right, I just think giving up on him now is crazy.

[cuzi]

I think that is a way too early criticism of Velesquez. You might end up right, I just think giving up on him now is crazy.

He's 24. 0 success at AAA. 0 success in MLB. Has no spot on the field. Other prospects are better. There's absolutely 0 reason for a team like the Cubs to be holding on to someone like him as he runs out of MiLB options and just might be a decent throw in for a deal.

Let a team like the Pirates try and develop a MLB hit tool on a 24+ year old prospect.