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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    You are over it but you keep it going. That's okay. I didn't say Howard was a primadonna, I said he's stupid. Like McGee. Jones and Ezeli never really got a chance to develop in the Warriors system because of injury.

    How about Brown or Hernangomez?

    On the cap thing ... the next TV deal will jump the cap a lot, but Lacob also basically said the league won't allow the Warriors to spend much more than they did this year which is new information.
    Not interested in Brown. Hernangomez is interesting as a small ball 4 but not sure his defense is where Iíd like it. Also would rather not see him take minutes from Kuminga on the bench. Or PBJ if he gets healthy in time for the season (wouldnít be surprised if we shut him down all year tho). I guess it comes down to what you think weíre missing off the bench.

    Curry - Poole - Rollins
    Klay - DD
    Wiggins - Moody
    Green - Kuminga - PBJ
    Looney - Wiseman

    This is the squad as is. Moody can also play minutes at SG, Kuminga at SF, DD at PG. This chart is mostly just getting best players in order without putting them in duplicate places which isnít how things will actually play out.

    Iíd say we donít really need a G. We could use a F and C. Ideally both vets as the bench is young.

    Iggy, Hernangomez, Morris, Harrel, LA, Millsap, Griffen, Dwight, Thompson, Cousins (seemed to be a lockerroom fav). All decent vet options (some maybe washed and just be a presence tho).

    What do you think is specialist weíre missing on the bench?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Not interested in Brown. Hernangomez is interesting as a small ball 4 but not sure his defense is where Iíd like it. Also would rather not see him take minutes from Kuminga on the bench. Or PBJ if he gets healthy in time for the season (wouldnít be surprised if we shut him down all year tho). I guess it comes down to what you think weíre missing off the bench.

    Curry - Poole - Rollins
    Klay - DD
    Wiggins - Moody
    Green - Kuminga - PBJ
    Looney - Wiseman

    This is the squad as is. Moody can also play minutes at SG, Kuminga at SF, DD at PG. This chart is mostly just getting best players in order without putting them in duplicate places which isnít how things will actually play out.

    Iíd say we donít really need a G. We could use a F and C. Ideally both vets as the bench is young.

    Iggy, Hernangomez, Morris, Harrel, LA, Millsap, Griffen, Dwight, Thompson, Cousins (seemed to be a lockerroom fav). All decent vet options (some maybe washed and just be a presence tho).

    What do you think is specialist weíre missing on the bench?
    this line up needs size- we cant count on wiseman or pbj being available night in and night out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    this line up needs size- we cant count on wiseman or pbj being available night in and night out.
    Agreed. Gonna be interesting to see if we can land any vets that want to ring chase or if thatís dried up since we just won again. Likely have a massive target on our back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Not interested in Brown. Hernangomez is interesting as a small ball 4 but not sure his defense is where Iíd like it. Also would rather not see him take minutes from Kuminga on the bench. Or PBJ if he gets healthy in time for the season (wouldnít be surprised if we shut him down all year tho). I guess it comes down to what you think weíre missing off the bench.

    Curry - Poole - Rollins
    Klay - DD
    Wiggins - Moody
    Green - Kuminga - PBJ
    Looney - Wiseman

    This is the squad as is. Moody can also play minutes at SG, Kuminga at SF, DD at PG. This chart is mostly just getting best players in order without putting them in duplicate places which isnít how things will actually play out.

    Iíd say we donít really need a G. We could use a F and C. Ideally both vets as the bench is young.

    Iggy, Hernangomez, Morris, Harrel, LA, Millsap, Griffen, Dwight, Thompson, Cousins (seemed to be a lockerroom fav). All decent vet options (some maybe washed and just be a presence tho).

    What do you think is specialist weíre missing on the bench?
    I would move things around some in that lineup as to their base positions. I'd put Moody at 2 and Kuminga at 3. Poole can play some 1 and 2 like Donte.

    If you do that then the 4 and 5 has a total of 3 players on the roster which is WAY lower than Kerr is comfortable with, and if you count PBJ it's only 4. Juancho could slide right in there as a combo 3-4. Up until last year he never played for much of a defensive coach so he may have had some of those bad habits rounded off some. He's certainly got the physical traits to be at least decent at it ... I'd love for Wiggins to show him the way.

    Brown is a great offensive and defensive rebounder and a live body.

    Morris said he doesn't want to come to the Warriors. Harrell is looking at possible prison time. LA, Griffin, and Cousins do very little for me. Millsap and Iguodala are the locker room guys like you said, but I'd rather have them behind the bench than on it.

    I don't think the Warriors need to add a specialist, I think they need to add healthy size (preferably not old) to backstop old Dray, and historically fragile Looney and Wiseman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    this line up needs size- we cant count on wiseman or pbj being available night in and night out.
    Or Looney or Dray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Agreed. Gonna be interesting to see if we can land any vets that want to ring chase or if thatís dried up since we just won again. Likely have a massive target on our back.
    From the beginning of free agency this year the bigs class was weeeeeeeeeeeeeeak. It's part of why the top 4 big players who changed teams are McGee, Hartenstein, Dedmon, and Drummond and all of them signed for more than the vet minimum despite that list of players being pretty shameful. IIRC McGee and Hartenstein are making more than the TPMLE next year. PJ Tucker got a big chunk of change and he fell apart against Boston ... I think that's going to be a bad contract.

    The current crop of ring chasing bigs just suck. Need to find some 2nd hand players who can be fixed by the Warriors that they can maybe keep a little longer.

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    Yuta Watanabe is out there for cheap. More defense than offense with him, he is a good rim protector for his size.

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    apparently, the warriors arent willing to give draymond a max deal. Its understandable, his game has taken a step down and its likely going to get worse over the next 3-4 yrs. We needed him to play like a max player in 19-20 and 20-21 but he packed it in when steph went out.

    This yr 15ppg 10 boards per game and 8.5 assists per game and appearing in atleast 75 games- to open the discussion for a max next summer. I dont think thats possible for draymond, but i also think he is going to turn into a role player over the next few yrs.

    LOl he might find himself in a front office discussed trade package if he keeps pushing for a max deal. If looney was 3 yrs 25 million. I think draymond should be 3 yr 40-45 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    apparently, the warriors arent willing to give draymond a max deal. Its understandable, his game has taken a step down and its likely going to get worse over the next 3-4 yrs. We needed him to play like a max player in 19-20 and 20-21 but he packed it in when steph went out.

    This yr 15ppg 10 boards per game and 8.5 assists per game and appearing in atleast 75 games- to open the discussion for a max next summer. I dont think thats possible for draymond, but i also think he is going to turn into a role player over the next few yrs.

    LOl he might find himself in a front office discussed trade package if he keeps pushing for a max deal. If looney was 3 yrs 25 million. I think draymond should be 3 yr 40-45 million.
    This is another example of the media creating "news" out of nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    apparently, the warriors arent willing to give draymond a max deal. Its understandable, his game has taken a step down and its likely going to get worse over the next 3-4 yrs. We needed him to play like a max player in 19-20 and 20-21 but he packed it in when steph went out.

    This yr 15ppg 10 boards per game and 8.5 assists per game and appearing in atleast 75 games- to open the discussion for a max next summer. I dont think thats possible for draymond, but i also think he is going to turn into a role player over the next few yrs.

    LOl he might find himself in a front office discussed trade package if he keeps pushing for a max deal. If looney was 3 yrs 25 million. I think draymond should be 3 yr 40-45 million.
    3 years 60 mill. 20 per. Thatís what Iíd price his value at. Might be willing to do 3 for 75 at 25 per.

    Ultimately this seems made up from nothing. Dray seems like one of the more reasonable players and thinks about stuff from an org level not a player level. He wants to win and I suspect he takes a deal to win. He knows he will make more off the court then on it and winning on the court will set him up better off the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    3 years 60 mill. 20 per. Thatís what Iíd price his value at. Might be willing to do 3 for 75 at 25 per.

    Ultimately this seems made up from nothing. Dray seems like one of the more reasonable players and thinks about stuff from an org level not a player level. He wants to win and I suspect he takes a deal to win. He knows he will make more off the court then on it and winning on the court will set him up better off the court.
    at 37 yrs old- i dont know if green will be worth 20-25 million a year.

    I think what it may come down too is how kuminga looks and what realistic expectations are for him at the end of this year. I tend to think we are gonna see a pretty big jump through out this yr in both him and moody.


    Also- is draymond getting a max offer from other teams next summer? He is no longer taking the toughest defensive assignment... except for joker, and jokers numbers during the first round were above his season averages vs draymond (which means draymond played below average defense on him overall)

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    at 37 yrs old- i dont know if green will be worth 20-25 million a year.

    I think what it may come down too is how kuminga looks and what realistic expectations are for him at the end of this year. I tend to think we are gonna see a pretty big jump through out this yr in both him and moody.


    Also- is draymond getting a max offer from other teams next summer? He is no longer taking the toughest defensive assignment... except for joker, and jokers numbers during the first round were above his season averages vs draymond (which means draymond played below average defense on him overall)
    Heís 32 in 3 years heíd be 35.

    We donít have anyone in the wings to replace what he does but no he isnít worth the max. 20-25 though, yea heís worth that and shouldnít hamper us from bringing back anyone. Then Klay the following year.

    No he isnít getting the max from another team nor will he get it from us. I think this was a non story made up for clicks based on the last comments from ownership about the league being mad and not being able to pay everyone.

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    If the cap goes up $30M in the next 2 years and right now those 4 make $100M then those 4 could be paid $130M and it wouldn't increase the tax bill. I really think the whole issue is being overblown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    If the cap goes up $30M in the next 2 years and right now those 4 make $100M then those 4 could be paid $130M and it wouldn't increase the tax bill. I really think the whole issue is being overblown.
    In 2 yrs, we dont want them taking anywhere near that percentage of the cap. By the end of draymonds contract- theres a good chance that he is helping the team on the floor about as much as Iggy did this last year.

    Im thinking 3 yrs 45-50 million. I dont think hes getting much more than that anywhere around the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    In 2 yrs, we dont want them taking anywhere near that percentage of the cap. By the end of draymonds contract- theres a good chance that he is helping the team on the floor about as much as Iggy did this last year.

    Im thinking 3 yrs 45-50 million. I dont think hes getting much more than that anywhere around the league.
    Who cares. The point is that the article makes it sound like the Warriors CAN'T keep them and they absolutely can. And whether Dray and Klay want to take less or not is a thing for the future and is irrelevant today.

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