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    What to make of Mitchell Robinson and his lack of offensive skills; PAY UP OR NOT

    Centers moving on in the playoffs

    Dallas- kleber

    Suns - ayton

    Celtics- horford, theis, Williams

    Bucks- brook , Portis

    Sixers - embiid

    Heat - bam

    Warriors - draymond

    Outside of robert Williams all of these guys have offensive skills outside of dunks and layups Williams was dpoy before he got injured. He's above mitch as a player

    Hmm

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    I wouldnít pay him. Unless itís dirt cheap, which isnít happening

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    pay him whats he's worth and all talks except in here is 12-13m and you can do that after freeing up cap and getting a PG.

    Above that you do a S&T because you have to see who wants him for more than that willing to pay who has cap to do that, and where he's willing to go, somehow I don't think he wants to go to Detroit unless the offer is ridiculous, he already said he would like to go near home.

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    Mitchell Robinson has changed his agent more times than he can score per game.

    Coming out of college, what scared away teams was his immaturity. Punctuality wasn't his strong suite as Mike Woodson aka Sweet Potato had to wipe his tears after Thibs commented on his lack of commitment by showing up to practice late.

    Barring his injury during the pandemic shortened season, Mitchell Robinson has been fairly consistent. He's made the post season once out of four seasons. Are the Knicks betting that he'll have a break out season and be the difference maker to push the Knicks back into contention?

    Can Mitchell Robinson handle Joel Embed? Anthony Davis? Giannis?

    That's ultimately going to be the difference between $13M and $18M/season.

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    Heís the Gianniís stopper


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    He can't guard the perimeter either hard pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Detfink View Post
    Mitchell Robinson has changed his agent more times than he can score per game.

    Coming out of college, what scared away teams was his immaturity. Punctuality wasn't his strong suite as Mike Woodson aka Sweet Potato had to wipe his tears after Thibs commented on his lack of commitment by showing up to practice late.

    Barring his injury during the pandemic shortened season, Mitchell Robinson has been fairly consistent. He's made the post season once out of four seasons. Are the Knicks betting that he'll have a break out season and be the difference maker to push the Knicks back into contention?

    Can Mitchell Robinson handle Joel Embed? Anthony Davis? Giannis?

    That's ultimately going to be the difference between $13M and $18M/season.
    he changed his agent twice because the Knicks took advantage of him. Tell me Mitch playing for 1.7 last year was a good contract?

    Teams were not scared about Mitch, he never played in college and sat out, didn't go to Europe, nothing trained on his own, were not scared of his immaturity, more like no idea what he can bring to the NBA, because they had nothing to show but HS.

    He already had outplayed Embiid, how did you miss that game? There is no team in this planet giving Mitch 18m, the question is who is giving him the in the 12-14 range a contract? He already would have taken the 12 but the Knicks weren't offering it and may or may not be right, but he is injured a lot and he has no offensive skill set but dunking and put backs.

    And as stated his covering the perimeter took a big hit from last year. So 18m not sure where you come up with this stuff? We will see soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by still a fan View Post
    he changed his agent twice because the Knicks took advantage of him. Tell me Mitch playing for 1.7 last year was a good contract?

    Teams were not scared about Mitch, he never played in college and sat out, didn't go to Europe, nothing trained on his own, were not scared of his immaturity, more like no idea what he can bring to the NBA, because they had nothing to show but HS.

    He already had outplayed Embiid, how did you miss that game? There is no team in this planet giving Mitch 18m, the question is who is giving him the in the 12-14 range a contract? He already would have taken the 12 but the Knicks weren't offering it and may or may not be right, but he is injured a lot and he has no offensive skill set but dunking and put backs.

    And as stated his covering the perimeter took a big hit from last year. So 18m not sure where you come up with this stuff? We will see soon enough.
    18M? Is IT a GM somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by still a fan View Post
    he changed his agent twice because the Knicks took advantage of him. Tell me Mitch playing for 1.7 last year was a good contract?

    Teams were not scared about Mitch, he never played in college and sat out, didn't go to Europe, nothing trained on his own, were not scared of his immaturity, more like no idea what he can bring to the NBA, because they had nothing to show but HS.

    He already had outplayed Embiid, how did you miss that game? There is no team in this planet giving Mitch 18m, the question is who is giving him the in the 12-14 range a contract? He already would have taken the 12 but the Knicks weren't offering it and may or may not be right, but he is injured a lot and he has no offensive skill set but dunking and put backs.

    And as stated his covering the perimeter took a big hit from last year. So 18m not sure where you come up with this stuff? We will see soon enough.

    Teams were 100% concerned about the maturity and decision making process of Mitchell Robinson.

    He has proven those concerns correct. The guy is a complete goof.

    He joined and quit the Western Kentucky team twice.
    He backed out of the NBA combine 2 days before.
    He fired his first agent, for a guy that bought him a car.
    Thatís how he ended up with a worse contract than Un-drafted Alonso Trier.

    He was projected middle first round and dropped into the second.

    He is on (at least) his 7th agent.
    https://nypost.com/2020/12/07/why-kn...ent-rich-paul/


    He is a clown. That went to California and got some of that California weed and had to sit out the next road game.

    He can walk. Easily replaced. He has regressed.

    Not to be critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheppetto View Post
    Teams were 100% concerned about the maturity and decision making process of Mitchell Robinson.

    He has proven those concerns correct. The guy is a complete goof.

    He joined and quit the Western Kentucky team twice.
    He backed out of the NBA combine 2 days before.
    He fired his first agent, for a guy that bought him a car.
    Thatís how he ended up with a worse contract than Un-drafted Alonso Trier.

    He was projected middle first round and dropped into the second.

    He is on (at least) his 7th agent.
    https://nypost.com/2020/12/07/why-kn...ent-rich-paul/


    He is a clown. That went to California and got some of that California weed and had to sit out the next road game.

    He can walk. Easily replaced. He has regressed.

    Not to be critical.
    That was cute lol" Seems like a lot of hate but i'm just reading, if your read in here then it's always good to post proof that teams didn't pick him do to your assessment above on maturity. Not going to college well he is not the first, others now go to the Gleague and others go to europe, he was simply led in the wrong direction and you left out he hired one of the top instructers preparing for the draft. Being given wrong advice at 22 and how he group up with his grandmother should never be confused with maturity level on why teams didn't pick him till the Knicks did.

    FYI, Lakers changed their minds at the last minute in that draft because they were all over mitch but decided on Wagner at the last minute, and i'm betting they wished they held that kid, huh?

    But feel free to quote teams or scouts or anyone else that said his maturity level pushed him to the second round?

    From where I remember and followed him strongly at draft time, he was an unknown and raw and teams pushed back but make no bones about the ability and raw talent, and he's proven it.

    And no one is calling him a brain surgeon lol, but lets put words into teams decision making unless you can quote them. I think thats' very fair.

    Draftnet: nothing about maturity.

    Weaknesses: Isnít always involved with the offense and lacks awareness. Still raw in terms of skillset. Doesnít have a post-game or much of a half-court offense. Lacks technique, simply relies on hustle and his physical advantage at this level. Doesnít have any go-to moves when contested. Needs work on his free throws, mechanical release, shot 54.3% from the line over the Nike EYBL. Although he didnít shoot threes on the Nike EYBL, he settled for quick threes for Chalmette Ö Still learning the game. Lacks a feel and basketball IQ. Has trouble handling some passes Ö Has much room to add strength to both his upper and lower body, which would help him establish low post position and finishing through contact Ö Mobile but moves a bit awkward. Looks stiff when he runs and lacks fluidity Ö Canít pass on the move, comes to a complete stop after rebounds to make a pass Ö Doesnít set many screens. Could be very dangerous in the pick and roll if learned and implemented correctly Ö A year older than some players in his class Ö
    Draft Express: nothing about maturity level:

    WEAKNESSES-Has high hips and a bit of an awkward frame. Has a ways to go to maximize his frame -Skill-level is a work in progress in five on five settings. Shows flashes in practice but is a ways away from translating that to game competition. -Doesn't really know how to play. Awareness, fundamentals, IQ all have a long ways to go. -Gets lost off the ball defensively. Gives up deep post position without resistance. Gets overpowered by stronger players on a regular basis. -Foul prone. Will likely have some trouble staying on the court early on until he learns how to play without fouling -Gets rebounds off his tools, doesn't really box out. -Doesn't always appear to have the most serious approach. Laid-back demeanor -A year old for his class - Source: https://www.draftexpress.com/profile...obinson-84500/ ©DraftExpress
    TheStepien: nothing about maturity, not showing up to the college didn't represent a maturity level concern.

    One of the most talented defensive centers in a class full of great defensive centers, Robinson is a tantalizing big man with his combination of commanding size and quick twitch athleticism. However, he is considered a mystery by many since he was ineligible to play in the NCAA this season and his intangibles have been questioned because of the circumstances surrounding his departure from Western Kentucky. To me, his talent is too hard to pass on once you get outside the top 10 but the depth at the center position certainly doesnít help his case, as teams may look to draft more familiar prospects.

    ó Mike Gribanov, 4.24.18
    Bleacher Report:

    Mitchell Robinson reportedly will not play a minute of college basketball.

    According to Yahoo Sports' Pat Forde, Robinson "is not expected to play college basketball this season" and "is expected to focus his energies on preparing for the 2018 NBA draft."

    Tuesday's report comes after the 5-star center prospect left Western Kentucky after previously enrolling there this summer. Ranked eighth nationally by Scout in the 2017 high school class, Robinson was the highest-touted recruit ever to sign with WKU when he announced his intentions last June.

    Robinson left Western Kentucky abruptly in July after attending two weeks of classes and practicing with the team. Hilltoppers head coach Rick Stansbury suspended Robinson initially before granting him his release.






    00:05 / 00:14
    "WKU freshman center Mitchell Robinson has been granted his release to transfer from the Hilltopper program," Stansbury said in a statement (via ESPN's Jeff Borzello). "After discussing Mitchellís future with him Monday evening, we agreed that it would be best for both sides to allow him to move in a different direction. As Iíve said before, Mitchell is a great kid, and we wish him well going forward."

    While Robinson visited programs, it was far from certain that he'd ever play. Any school would have had to file for a waiver to make Robinson eligible for the 2017-18 season. Because he was enrolled at Western Kentucky and practiced with the team, the NCAA would have had to approve a hardship waiver for Robinson's transfer.

    It will be difficult for Robinson to improve his stock away from the college basketball spotlight, but he is a borderline lock for the top 20 in next June's draft should he proceed as planned. He's an athletic 7-footer who was seemingly set on dominating Conference USA competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by still a fan View Post
    he changed his agent twice because the Knicks took advantage of him. Tell me Mitch playing for 1.7 last year was a good contract?

    Teams were not scared about Mitch, he never played in college and sat out, didn't go to Europe, nothing trained on his own, were not scared of his immaturity, more like no idea what he can bring to the NBA, because they had nothing to show but HS.

    He already had outplayed Embiid, how did you miss that game? There is no team in this planet giving Mitch 18m, the question is who is giving him the in the 12-14 range a contract? He already would have taken the 12 but the Knicks weren't offering it and may or may not be right, but he is injured a lot and he has no offensive skill set but dunking and put backs.

    And as stated his covering the perimeter took a big hit from last year. So 18m not sure where you come up with this stuff? We will see soon enough.
    He changed his agent 4 times. Teams were scared of his lack of maturity. Mike Breen talked about it on the Ringer with Bill Simmons before last season's miracle playoff run.

    Hahha. He didn't outplay Embiid. Oh Please. He had a good game in a losing cause (AGAIN). That's the reoccurring theme with Knick fans buying that because a player had a good game in a loss that exempts him from blame. It doesn't. Center is the defensive anchor and goalie of the defense. Mitch didn't really stop anyone that night because he was too busy trying to prove to the team that he can score.

    Score and preventing scores have to be in conjunction for the Knicks to be winners. Otherwise it's just a bag of talent.

    You watch, NO ONE is going to give this guy an offer. He's going to come right back to the Knicks IF they want him back.

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    How many more times do we need to hear about Mitch switching agents?

    Asking for a friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    How many more times do we need to hear about Mitch switching agents?

    Asking for a friend
    lol

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    But also did you guys see the contract Mitch signed? Iíd change agents too.

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    If Obi Toppin who is a 1st rounder, picked 8th overall gets $4.8M then I can't see a second round pick 36th overall getting paid more than 1.8M per season until he's a UFA.

    Let's see what the market says about Mitch.

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