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  1. #3466
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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Once again, your reading comprehension fails you at an incredibly humorous time. This is from NBC. I don't believe Tucker Carlson works there.
    More obsession with Tucker Carlson? You watch far more Fox News than I do, so you'll have to tell me what he thinks.
    Nice work, Nate.
    The money, genius, how much of the money was from Tucker Carlson? I couldn't even begin to tell you the last time I watched Fox News. A bit the night of Obama's reelection, maybe? You seem to be confusing me for someone else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    As one who works in mental health nursing, and with a lot of veterans, I have seen a lot of these problems. There are not enough places for people to go to get help. I am not blaming Biden for this, either. Mental health hospital beds are expensive and the VA, Medicare and private insurance don't pay as much for them as they do for a med-surg bed.
    I wouldn't blame the Biden Admin for any increase in suicide rates either. I think it is endemic as to how our society is evolving. You used to be able to do a lot more with a lot less. That is not the case anymore. You also didn't know what you didn't have nor was there such a push to show you what you didn't have. Now with the internet and all the messages, everyone tells you what they have (even if they don't really "have" it). Some people get depressed over over not being able to keep up.

    Society heeds to come up with a way for the lower third or quarter to live a decent life and we have shortchanged that portion of our people.. Reasonable housing, vehicles, hard goods, clothing food, entertainment……all used to be part of life for everyone. Not so much anymore.

    Of course, I'm living in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I wouldn't blame the Biden Admin for any increase in suicide rates either. I think it is endemic as to how our society is evolving. You used to be able to do a lot more with a lot less. That is not the case anymore. You also didn't know what you didn't have nor was there such a push to show you what you didn't have. Now with the internet and all the messages, everyone tells you what they have (even if they don't really "have" it). Some people get depressed over over not being able to keep up.

    Society heeds to come up with a way for the lower third or quarter to live a decent life and we have shortchanged that portion of our people.. Reasonable housing, vehicles, hard goods, clothing food, entertainment……all used to be part of life for everyone. Not so much anymore.

    Of course, I'm living in the past.
    This isn't new in American life (or humanity as a whole). There are tales as old as time about people being so upset about being part of the have nots and hating or coveting the haves. This compulsion to pretend like things were peachy keen back in the day and are just terrible now is also nothing new.
    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    the delays of the courts needs to end at some point.
    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    And if people got **** counsel, well they had to die so the court could move faster…but tell me again how pro-life you are!
    I was told there would be pro-life! Not pro-death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    And you would be wrong.

    I believe I did say that there was so much damage to property, cities etc.that the end result of all the grief could (remember "could") have resulted in deaths due to severe life changes as a result of the "peaceful" protests. Sort of the high rate of drug overdoses and suicides being contributed to the Cvid lockdowns. "Official" murder??? No. But dead nonetheless. Dead is dead.
    ok then it was someone else. No worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    to be clear I'm not blaming any of this on Biden, but apparently, both dissertations and suicides are way up in the Navy since 2019. I guess it's only in the Navy too.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ategory=foryou
    I think you mean desertions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    Sorry that I wasn't recording the news that was constantly showing it.
    I want to say Sluggo said it earlier, it doesn't count because BLM isn't classified by some as an issue.
    If only there was some like world wide web type of thing that archived news stories and such that one could share with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    I think you mean desertions.
    I'm sure of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    ok then it was someone else. No worries.
    I never worry.

    Of course, I'm probably lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    This isn't new in American life (or humanity as a whole). There are tales as old as time about people being so upset about being part of the have nots and hating or coveting the haves. This compulsion to pretend like things were peachy keen back in the day and are just terrible now is also nothing new.
    I keep telling people that Americans are way over stressed nowadays, so of course you are going to see a raise in suicides, and rage killings. It happen during the depression as well. Stories of high level businessmen losing everything and taking a dive out of a window, Mafia, drive by and bombings. Bad times are called bad times for a reason. For a long time we thought we were immune to it, asleep at the wheel on this, now the rude awakening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    This isn't new in American life (or humanity as a whole). There are tales as old as time about people being so upset about being part of the have nots and hating or coveting the haves. This compulsion to pretend like things were peachy keen back in the day and are just terrible now is also nothing new.
    Bolded……this is true.

    And I guess I did not do a good job of clarifying my point.

    Which is (or should have been) ……it should be easier to become part of the "haves" for just simple, everyday people. There should be ways for people to have fairly prices reasonable housing, affordable healthcare and affordable advanced education.

    People also need to be reasonable with their expectations. Maybe the "cool dudes" need to be satisfied with driving a Sentra or Corolla instead of the snazzy beemer at three times the cost. Maybe the hottie chicks could wear cheaper clothes and shoes.

    How much control should society have over its citizens??? Should we be allowed to get "payday loans" from check cashing service??? Or rent furniture (place in FL where you can rent cool wheel, not a car, just wheels for your cars)??? Or take out stupid auto loans (6-7 years, really???) Should banks give you a credit card when they have seen your credit history and know you are maxed out???? Or allow credit card cash advances??? Or loans for an expensive dog etc.??? I hate the concept of protecting people from themselves, but for some people it may not be a bad idea.

    I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    Sorry that I wasn't recording the news that was constantly showing it.
    I want to say Sluggo said it earlier, it doesn't count because BLM isn't classified by some as an issue.
    No need to apologize. If it was happening so frequently it should be easy to find. I’ll await the instances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I wouldn't blame the Biden Admin for any increase in suicide rates either. I think it is endemic as to how our society is evolving. You used to be able to do a lot more with a lot less. That is not the case anymore. You also didn't know what you didn't have nor was there such a push to show you what you didn't have. Now with the internet and all the messages, everyone tells you what they have (even if they don't really "have" it). Some people get depressed over over not being able to keep up.

    Society heeds to come up with a way for the lower third or quarter to live a decent life and we have shortchanged that portion of our people.. Reasonable housing, vehicles, hard goods, clothing food, entertainment……all used to be part of life for everyone. Not so much anymore.

    Of course, I'm living in the past.
    Why don’t they just work harder and get better jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    I think you mean desertions.
    I wonder if the change in the woke and White Supremist charges and interrogations being forced down military members by the stupid new Defense Secretary and Armed Forces Chairman account for any of this crap? As for mental health services made available in the veteran's administration, my experience is that any veteran who needs help will get it if they ask for it and it is very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Why don’t they just work harder and get better jobs?
    Point missed………again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Prey View Post
    I wonder if the change in the woke and White Supremist charges and interrogations being forced down military members by the stupid new Defense Secretary and Armed Forces Chairman account for any of this crap? As for mental health services made available in the veteran's administration, my experience is that any veteran who needs help will get it if they ask for it and it is very good.
    Interestign point……and there may be sopme validity to it.

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