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    ARod HOF bound? What do you expect?

    What should we expect for Alex Rodriguez on the Hall of Fame ballot?
    The former Yankee third baseman has made his entry on the ballot.
    By Esteban Rivera@esteerivera42 Nov 29, 2021, 8:00am EST

    One of those topics bound for many kinds of takes surrounds former Yankees great, Alex Rodriguez. He finds himself on the ballot for the first time, five years after his retirement from the game. He is undoubtedly one of the best players of all time, and perhaps the greatest at shortstop, but his legacy is plagued by his use of performance-enhancing drugs. On one hand, you could argue that A-Rod was an all-time great before he seemed to begin taking steroids (he admitted to using steroids as a Texas Ranger from 2001 to 2003). On the other, he was the poster boy for PED suspensions, and was forced once to sit out an entire year in 2013.

    Whatever it is you think about the situation is right to you, and thatís fine; thereís no obvious answer for what to do with a player like Rodriguez. Itís also not exactly clear where he will end up after the votes are tallied. One could try to link A-Rod to the likes of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, but Iím not sure there will be a one to one relationship between Rodriguez voters and Bonds/Clemens voters. The latter two put together their incredible on-field careers almost entirely before drug tests were brought to MLB, and they are on the ballot for the final time.

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    I mean heís no Carlos Correa but had Correa like potential but never put it together

    He 100% deserves to be in the hall. Unlike others, he paid. I donít think he gets in until heís about out of chances but I think he deserves first time induction



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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    What should we expect for Alex Rodriguez on the Hall of Fame ballot?
    The former Yankee third baseman has made his entry on the ballot.
    By Esteban Rivera@esteerivera42 Nov 29, 2021, 8:00am EST

    One of those topics bound for many kinds of takes surrounds former Yankees great, Alex Rodriguez. He finds himself on the ballot for the first time, five years after his retirement from the game. He is undoubtedly one of the best players of all time, and perhaps the greatest at shortstop, but his legacy is plagued by his use of performance-enhancing drugs. On one hand, you could argue that A-Rod was an all-time great before he seemed to begin taking steroids (he admitted to using steroids as a Texas Ranger from 2001 to 2003). On the other, he was the poster boy for PED suspensions, and was forced once to sit out an entire year in 2013.

    Whatever it is you think about the situation is right to you, and thatís fine; thereís no obvious answer for what to do with a player like Rodriguez. Itís also not exactly clear where he will end up after the votes are tallied. One could try to link A-Rod to the likes of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, but Iím not sure there will be a one to one relationship between Rodriguez voters and Bonds/Clemens voters. The latter two put together their incredible on-field careers almost entirely before drug tests were brought to MLB, and they are on the ballot for the final time.

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    no he used steroids for at least 7 seasons. the 3 years in texas and through the 2007 season in which he had 54 home runs and 156 rbi's..

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    Should he get in, absolutely but i doubt he will. If they won't vote a guy like Clemens in who never tested positive or got suspended for PED use, i don't think a guy who was suspended for a full season will have a chance.

    We truly don't know what % of players used in the PED era, i think there needs to be a separate section in the HOF for players from that ERA. How can u have a HOF when guys like Bonds, Clemens and many others aren't apart of it.

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    bonds was a automatic hall of famer before he even used roids not the case with clemens and arod..

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    bonds started taking roids in 2001 but before that he was a hall of fame player by his stats..and a 3 time mvp before 2001..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Should he get in, absolutely but i doubt he will. If they won't vote a guy like Clemens in who never tested positive or got suspended for PED use, i don't think a guy who was suspended for a full season will have a chance.

    We truly don't know what % of players used in the PED era, i think there needs to be a separate section in the HOF for players from that ERA. How can u have a HOF when guys like Bonds, Clemens and many others aren't apart of it.
    look at clemens last 4 years in boston then he goes to toronto and wins 2 cy young back to back with ridiculous stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    look at clemens last 4 years in boston then he goes to toronto and wins 2 cy young back to back with ridiculous stats
    You and your brother have the same problem, failure to read. I said they should have a separate wing for the PED era. No one knows exactly who was using what or when. Guys like Clemens and Arod still competed in an ERA where PED use was rampant but they still put up better stats than anyone else. They deserve to get in, just not the the regular HOF IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    You and your brother have the same problem, failure to read. I said they should have a separate wing for the PED era. No one knows exactly who was using what or when. Guys like Clemens and Arod still competed in an ERA where PED use was rampant but they still put up better stats than anyone else. They deserve to get in, just not the the regular HOF IMO
    a separate wing for the ped era that is even more laughable why not a separate wing for people who gabled on baseball as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    a separate wing for the ped era that is even more laughable why not a separate wing for people who gabled on baseball as well...
    What about a separate psd section for posters who canít read or spell?



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    Ortiz will be first ballot whole Arod gets about 3 votes.

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    https://twitter.com/sadiel1977/statu...F5cPeg93Q&s=19



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    Pretty much everyone was using in the hay day. Now, many still do. My point is, it was a level playing field. They should not have a separate wing. They should let them in, but have a higher standard in terms of stats. Each era is different, and each should be judged against itself.
    Time to double down on the 'Spects!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laying Low View Post
    Pretty much everyone was using in the hay day. Now, many still do. My point is, it was a level playing field. They should not have a separate wing. They should let them in, but have a higher standard in terms of stats. Each era is different, and each should be judged against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laying Low View Post
    Pretty much everyone was using in the hay day. Now, many still do. My point is, it was a level playing field. They should not have a separate wing. They should let them in, but have a higher standard in terms of stats. Each era is different, and each should be judged against itself.
    Asterisks? Noting the era and standards applied in the decision?

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