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  1. #781
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    At some point someone in this thread used the failed 4th as a negative on Wentz, so I asked if it wasnít because it was hurts.

    Iím not meaning it to be negative towards hurts, I give him zero blame in that play failing.
    I went back far and didnít see that at all. If true, it was stupid then. Such a weird thing I never thought Iíd debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of Blades View Post
    I don't consider Brand New indie. I consider them ****ing awesome and don't belong to a genre.

  2. #782
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Losing possession is losing possession but it matters because of where it happens.

    Unless the games already set youíre never going to see a failed 4th on your own side of the field. Youíre going to see int/fumble on your own side a lot more.

    Where it happens is setting the opponent up for an easier chance to score.

    If Wentz gets sacked on 4th itís failed at the spot. Wentz gets picked on 4th is possible the opponent advances or even scores.

    I donít think looking at results of change of possession is what you should be doing.
    Fair. Just doesnít really make a big difference to me. Either way, no possession. Again, not blaming hurts.

  3. #783
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Fair. Just doesnít really make a big difference to me. Either way, no possession. Again, not blaming hurts.
    On some small plays it might not make a difference. But overall itís quite a bit different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner4life View Post
    On some small plays it might not make a difference. But overall itís quite a bit different.
    Every time itís the others team ball.

  5. #785
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Every time itís the others team ball.
    That similarity is true but is that the whole story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner4life View Post
    That similarity is true but is that the whole story?
    I never said it was.

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