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Find where I say Protect all Life with no regard to circumstances. That's what you are saying so go find it. It's a time waster because it doesn't exist. You want it to exist because as I stated you are fragile.
Your idea on when life begins is akin to those that think the earth is flat. This allows you to justify murder in your mind.
What happens when folks say life doesn't being until some point after birth? Your definition allows that to be ok as well.
Again, I really do think you are smarter than this and your ego and fragility prevents your intellect from showing.
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Moving goalposts I see. I mean "protect all life" sounds pretty blanketing to me. You didn't preface it with anything. No, I don't want it to exist. Its exists because you said it.
That's your opinion. Foundationally, we disagree on when life begins and when abortion is acceptable. That's why I thought the previous laws in which it was allowed or not allowed worked just fine. Obviously a cross section of judges feel otherwise. It doesn't take much. A majority of 9 justices.
Its not a matter of ego, intelligence, or fragility. Its a matter of fundamental disagreement. I can easily counter that science says a fetus can't survive outside the womb for 20 or so weeks and most abortions occur way before that point.
Last edited by metswon69; 05-13-2022 at 11:34 AM.
It depends how far along the baby is as to whether or not it can survive for 20 or so weeks.
This said, I understand what you are saying and agree that the cutoff on abortions should be somewhere around 15 weeks. Prior to that, all threats to the mother's life should be determined and the baby's viability should be as well.
Yeah I know brett brought up an example of 19 weeks but that's one in literally billions of babies born. Sure, the technology around natal care is improving but most babies born that prematurely don't survive as you know. Not to mention, the ones that do are at an incredibly high risk for some kind of permanent disability.
I'm not going to try and convince someone who takes the stance that "Abortion is murder" that its indeed not murder because they're not backing off that stance regardless of the science or how situations are presented to them. Its wasting keystrokes.
Last edited by metswon69; 05-13-2022 at 12:20 PM.
Everyone is different in their viewpoints. Yes, I know that many people are against birth control pills and other contraceptives. Thats fine. I am talking about abortion and abortion only and there are people who are okay with contraception but not aborting a baby in the womb. Totally different things both accomplishing a supposed desired end namely to prevent a baby from living. When a society is willing to take a human being out of a womb and killing it, I say that society is barbaric. And right now, some of the abortion states are saying that they would allow the killing of a BORN INFANT up to a week old if the mother doesn't want the child. This is how WRONG the abortion lobby is with their murderous opinions.
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