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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    The fact that anyone thinks weíre going to pull out of Afghanistan at all is a big humorous. We arenít going anywhere. Itís like Lucy and the football. Thereís always going to be another reason why we have to stay.
    They can pull out all the troops and claim they did it while leaving hundreds of "specialists" and "training officers" and whatever names they want to use, while also having thousands of "private contractors" stay there for "security" or whatever else they can come up with.

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    Glad we are out of there to the degree that we are. I would have liked to see it done in a more dignified mannerÖÖbut the bottom line is we are out of there.

    Good riddance

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Well, no, he actually negotiated and set the date. Had he won we would be out already.
    Biden hasn't ACTUALLY done anything other than just push the date back. I hope he follows through, but he hasn't done it yet.
    Trump didn't do ****.

    He would of ended up taking those 6k troops and sending them to Iran if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Well, no, he actually negotiated and set the date. Had he won we would be out already.
    Biden hasn't ACTUALLY done anything other than just push the date back. I hope he follows through, but he hasn't done it yet.
    This is actually pretty common among Presidents to set a date for withdrawal or leave right at the end of their Presidency, that way they donít have to worry about the fallout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Trump didn't do ****.
    Where you vacationing at Headuporifice Island when Trump negotiated a May 21, 2021 withdrawal with the Taliban or are you pretending it didn't happen so you can give your boy Biden credit for something he had no part of?

    It has to be one or the other.
    GJO- You will never be forgotten. "MORE THAN MINFINITY"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    Where you vacationing at Headuporifice Island when Trump negotiated a May 21, 2021 withdrawal with the Taliban or are you pretending it didn't happen so you can give your boy Biden credit for something he had no part of?

    It has to be one or the other.
    Im saying Trump claiming anything is worth jack and ****.

    So let me get this straight. You think if Biden pulls out of Afghanistan thats a Trump win.

    LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Im saying Trump claiming anything is worth jack and ****.

    So let me get this straight. You think if Biden pulls out of Afghanistan thats a Trump win.

    LOL.
    So vacationing.

    Yes. What did Biden do other than move the date to a later time? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
    GJO- You will never be forgotten. "MORE THAN MINFINITY"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    So vacationing.

    Yes. What did Biden do other than move the date to a later time? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
    Give Afganistan more time? As they werent even in the peace negotiations to begin with.

    Or my bad, so Trump didnt get credit. Gotchya.

    Its amazing how gulible you guys are when it comes to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Give Afganistan more time? As they werent even in the peace negotiations to begin with.

    Or my bad, so Trump didnt get credit. Gotchya.

    Its amazing how gulible you guys are when it comes to Trump.
    Personally I donít know why heís not getting them out this week. Tell Afghanistan that weíre done dying over there and spending trillions in a blunder of a war. Weíre terribly sorry their country will suffer but we are pulling the bandaid off the wound.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-doomed...203102239.html

    Pretty damning assessment of our policy in Afghanistan by an Inspector General of the reconstruction effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    This is actually pretty common among Presidents to set a date for withdrawal or leave right at the end of their Presidency, that way they donít have to worry about the fallout.
    He seemed pretty committed, the fact that he had taliban leaders come to camp david the year before, makes me think he REALLY wanted out.

    And I don't remember Obama or Bush doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Give Afganistan more time? As they werent even in the peace negotiations to begin with.

    Or my bad, so Trump didnt get credit. Gotchya.

    Its amazing how gulible you guys are when it comes to Trump.
    The fact that was announcing we're leaving puts the Afgani govt in a position where they CAN'T negotiate since the Taliban can always just say...**** you, your body guard is leaving in Sept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Im saying Trump claiming anything is worth jack and ****.

    So let me get this straight. You think if Biden pulls out of Afghanistan thats a Trump win.

    LOL.
    No, we're saying Biden is just following through on the thing Trump was doing anyway.
    Should we give Biden credit for continuing tariffs on China, just act like it was all his idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    He seemed pretty committed, the fact that he had taliban leaders come to camp david the year before, makes me think he REALLY wanted out.

    And I don't remember Obama or Bush doing this.
    I believe he was really committed to leaving, but he negotiated the deal when he did and for a withdrawal when he did because the news that a withdrawal date had been set was good politically but the difficulty of actually withdrawing could hurt him in the election. It was actually a politically savvy move.

    And Obama did something similar when he finally proposed fully shutting down GTMO in 2016, the last year of his presidency.

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