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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    But it makes perfect sense when you think about it. All these so-called patriots really care about is making money for themselves and their kind. Wars are great for that.

    You don’t think Cheney and his buddies didn’t make millions upon millions off of a war doomed to fail from the outset? Of course he did, as did everyone at Haliburton, et al.

    Every piece of military equipment that goes belly up is just money in the bank for defense contractors.

    “Nation building?” A perfectly slimy phrase for what it really is: make money destroying a nation and then make money allegedly rebuilding a nation. What a joke.

    It’s trillions of dollars, sure, but a lot of it ends up in the hands of Americans, particularly in the hands those who have aready gamed the system (and then the best part: they essentially launder it offshore rather than pay taxes on it).

    It’s a win-win for all the rich assclumps.

    And most conventional conservative eat up this crap for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
    For sure.

    And that's why the right-wingers here who lose their minds when people suggest we spend the money we spend on wars on just about anything else are, once again, absolute suckers. Voting against their class interests constantly. People who would rather see a small amount of people make massive amounts of money off of counterproductive and disastrous wars than do literally anything else with that money.

    Suckers. All of the right-wingers here! Suckers! If you want to make America great it's long past time you support investing money into America and it's people. How this is something controversial or radical is beyond me. Well, not really. The American right and it's media are fantastic at corralling the sheep with the most banal talking points and fear mongering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    American taxpayer money should be invested in Americans and not foreigners…until someone wants to invest it in Americans…then it’s socialism.
    Well, keep in mind that we have spent far more $$$ on the Great Society and War on Poverty than we have on the Afghan War……and gotten pretty much the same results.

    Of course the Great Society had more time to waste $$$ and the Afghan war did have that lives lost factor.

    Hard to say which was worse.

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    I'm sure there is a lot that I don't know about this situation/war in Afghanistan, but would it not be better to completely pull everyone out and let them take care of their own country?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Well, keep in mind that we have spent far more $$$ on the Great Society and War on Poverty than we have on the Afghan War……and gotten pretty much the same results.

    Of course the Great Society had more time to waste $$$ and the Afghan war did have that lives lost factor.

    Hard to say which was worse.
    Idiotic comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Idiotic comparison.
    Tons of $$$$ with no results compared to tons of $$$ with no results.

    You're right………idiotic comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Tons of $$$$ with no results compared to tons of $$$ with no results.

    You're right………idiotic comparison.
    There was plenty of results. It's different to say there's 10% poverty then and 10% poverty today, from saying who was in poverty then and who is in poverty now. It's different demographics who are in poverty today then it was before. I'm sure steel and coal mining country would agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Tons of $$$$ with no results compared to tons of $$$ with no results.

    You're right………idiotic comparison.
    Great society no results? You're a total joke.
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    Pretty tough to watch Afghanistan completely implode in a few months. Not that it was surprising but the speed of the collapse is just amazing. At least when South Vietnam collapsed it took a few years.

    Wouldn't it be something if the Taliban captured Kabul on 9/11.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I'm sure there is a lot that I don't know about this situation/war in Afghanistan, but would it not be better to completely pull everyone out and let them take care of their own country?
    I think most of us here agree with you that we shouldn't be there. It's a boondoggle and there was never a chance we were going to leave there smoothly. The fact that after 20 years and all this money it fell apart instantly says all that needs to be said. It's a lost cause. It sucks for our allies. A lot of people there deserve reparations, at the very least. It's also a shame it takes like 80 years and some connections to get here as an immigrant. Not that you'd ever support that. But yeah.

    And honestly, there's a low bar here...but props for not politicizing this in some weird "Joe Biden is the Taliban's best friend" or whatever.
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    Biden has authorized an additional 5000 troops for Afghanistan:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...vance-n1276840
    Security for the removal of all Americans from the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Well, keep in mind that we have spent far more $$$ on the Great Society and War on Poverty than we have on the Afghan War……and gotten pretty much the same results.

    Of course the Great Society had more time to waste $$$ and the Afghan war did have that lives lost factor.

    Hard to say which was worse.
    Millions for decades have been helped by the Great Society. This is an inaccurate comparison.

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    Every time I see this thread, I think about the guy who made the

    JO MOTHER FLIPPING BIDEN: Thread celebrating the fact that Joe announced the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Every time I see this thread, I think about the guy who made the

    JO MOTHER FLIPPING BIDEN: Thread celebrating the fact that Joe announced the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
    I am disappointed we still have troops in Afghanistan. The extent to our troop presence should have started and ended with

    Time in Afghanistan = (# of troops / number of troops that can fight on a transport) * number of transports available * time it takes to fly back from Afghanistan

    That's it. So probably 1-2 weeks and we should have been out by the end of February for sure. MAYBE middle of March. Everything else is a waste of lives, money, and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post

    You're right………idiotic comparison.
    Thank you.

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    From today’s AP wire:

    “For years, the U.S. has been looking for an exit for the war. Washington under then-President Donald Trump signed a deal with the Taliban in February 2020 that limited direct military action against the insurgents. That allowed the fighters to gather strength and move quickly to seize key areas when President Joe Biden announced his plans to withdraw all American forces by the end of this month.“

    Both sides.

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