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  1. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    I 100% get what you're saying but hypothetically if the Rockets offer some massive haul to move up to #1, ya gotta listen.

    Pistons have Hayes, it's not like they're dying for a massive PG, they have that.

    Green fits nicely, Mobley fits nicely. Suggs isn't super ideal but he still fits. If the drop off isn't massive from #1 to #2 but your team gets like 1 or 2 future draft picks too, its gotta be considered.
    Oh for sure listen. I'm sure Weaver is taking all calls and if he sees fit to trade #1 I guess so be it. I trust him after he somehow made the Plumlee signing look good lol. Still I'd be a tad disappointed finally getting the #1 pick after continually dropping in the draft the last few lotteries.

  2. #167
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    Yet another update on mocks


    1- Cade Cunningham (PG) (Detroit Pistons)
    2- Jalen Green (SG) (Houston Rockets)
    3- Evan Mobley (C) (Cleveland Cavaliers)
    4- Jalen Suggs (PG/SG combo) (Toronto Raptors)
    5- Scottie Barnes (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    6- Jonathan Kuminga (SF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    7- Moses Moody (SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    8- Corey Kispert (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    9- Franz Wagner (SF/PF) (Sacramento Kings)
    10- James Bouknight (SG) (New Orleans Pelicans)
    11- Kai Jones (C) (Charlotte Hornets)
    12- Alperen Sengun (PF/C) (San Antonio Spurs)
    13- Josh Giddey (PG) (Indiana Pacers)
    14- Davion Mitchell (PG/SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    15- Trey Murphy III (SF/PF) (Washington Wizards)
    16- Jalen Johnson (PF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    17- Usman Garuba (PF/C) (Memphis Grizzlies)
    18- Isaiah Jackson (C) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    19- Chris Duarte (SG/SF) (New York Knicks)
    20- Keon Johnson (SG) (Atlanta Hawks)
    21- Cameron Thomas (SG) (New York Knicks)
    22- Tre Mann (PG) (Los Angeles Lakers)
    23- Jared Butler (PG) (Houston Rockets)
    24- Ziaire Williams (SF/PF) (Houston Rockets)
    25- Sharife Cooper (PG) (Los Angeles Clippers)
    26- Joshua Primo (PG/SG) (Denver Nuggets)
    27- Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (PF) (Brooklyn Nets)
    28- Jaden Springer (PG) (Philadelphia 76ers)
    29- Miles McBride (PG/SG) (Phoenix Suns)
    30- Ayo Dosunmu (PG/SG) (Utah Jazz)

  3. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by cattusmaru View Post
    Understandable but look how long it took Wiggins in the league before he was started helping his team consistently even tho he still hasn't live up to his top overall billing. If Wiseman trajectory in the NBA is the same, would you be content or to trade him for a proven veteran star past his prime to help escalate the chance of winning now?
    What proven veteran makes that difference to the Warriors? Let's say that's the only move they make, so they have Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, and nothing ... the proven veteran is going to play center right? I just don't see anyone out there who makes that money that is worth it.

  4. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Yet another update on mocks


    1- Cade Cunningham (PG) (Detroit Pistons)
    2- Jalen Green (SG) (Houston Rockets)
    3- Evan Mobley (C) (Cleveland Cavaliers)
    4- Jalen Suggs (PG/SG combo) (Toronto Raptors)
    5- Scottie Barnes (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    6- Jonathan Kuminga (SF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    7- Moses Moody (SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    8- Corey Kispert (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    9- Franz Wagner (SF/PF) (Sacramento Kings)
    10- James Bouknight (SG) (New Orleans Pelicans)
    11- Kai Jones (C) (Charlotte Hornets)
    12- Alperen Sengun (PF/C) (San Antonio Spurs)
    13- Josh Giddey (PG) (Indiana Pacers)
    14- Davion Mitchell (PG/SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    15- Trey Murphy III (SF/PF) (Washington Wizards)
    16- Jalen Johnson (PF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    17- Usman Garuba (PF/C) (Memphis Grizzlies)
    18- Isaiah Jackson (C) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    19- Chris Duarte (SG/SF) (New York Knicks)
    20- Keon Johnson (SG) (Atlanta Hawks)
    21- Cameron Thomas (SG) (New York Knicks)
    22- Tre Mann (PG) (Los Angeles Lakers)
    23- Jared Butler (PG) (Houston Rockets)
    24- Ziaire Williams (SF/PF) (Houston Rockets)
    25- Sharife Cooper (PG) (Los Angeles Clippers)
    26- Joshua Primo (PG/SG) (Denver Nuggets)
    27- Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (PF) (Brooklyn Nets)
    28- Jaden Springer (PG) (Philadelphia 76ers)
    29- Miles McBride (PG/SG) (Phoenix Suns)
    30- Ayo Dosunmu (PG/SG) (Utah Jazz)
    I really like your picks for Houston! I'm a fan of Butler and Williams in those slots.

    The two guys who jump out at first glance, aside from that, are Kispert and Mitchell. I could see Mitchell falling, but 14 feels really low. And I can see a team reaching to get the top shooter in the draft in Kispert, but 8 feels too high. You never know, obviously; and there's always some surprised on draft night. But those spots would definitely be surprises in my book.


  5. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    What proven veteran makes that difference to the Warriors? Let's say that's the only move they make, so they have Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, and nothing ... the proven veteran is going to play center right? I just don't see anyone out there who makes that money that is worth it.
    The one with the most recent chatter regarding Beal to become Curry's new backcourt mate while Klay takes over at the wing as a swingman. Then pick up someone like Boogie off free agency to play the 5.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...607.php?espv=1

    Or trade for an all star center like Vucevic from the Bulls (buyers remorse) as they are not ready to contend by replenishing their picks they traded away to Orlando plus players they want to make the salaries match for the trade but GS don't need a dominant center to win as they have proven in the past, just one that understand their role and not become a liability on the big stage when the pressure mounts.

  6. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    I really like your picks for Houston! I'm a fan of Butler and Williams in those slots.

    The two guys who jump out at first glance, aside from that, are Kispert and Mitchell. I could see Mitchell falling, but 14 feels really low. And I can see a team reaching to get the top shooter in the draft in Kispert, but 8 feels too high. You never know, obviously; and there's always some surprised on draft night. But those spots would definitely be surprises in my book.
    Mitchell not falling to 14 like Haliburton did to 12th in the last draft where a redraft has him taken much sooner now. Davion might even be gone before 7.

  7. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Yet another update on mocks


    1- Cade Cunningham (PG) (Detroit Pistons)
    2- Jalen Green (SG) (Houston Rockets)
    3- Evan Mobley (C) (Cleveland Cavaliers)
    4- Jalen Suggs (PG/SG combo) (Toronto Raptors)
    5- Scottie Barnes (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    6- Jonathan Kuminga (SF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    7- Moses Moody (SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    8- Corey Kispert (SF) (Orlando Magic)
    9- Franz Wagner (SF/PF) (Sacramento Kings)
    10- James Bouknight (SG) (New Orleans Pelicans)
    11- Kai Jones (C) (Charlotte Hornets)
    12- Alperen Sengun (PF/C) (San Antonio Spurs)
    13- Josh Giddey (PG) (Indiana Pacers)
    14- Davion Mitchell (PG/SG) (Golden State Warriors)
    15- Trey Murphy III (SF/PF) (Washington Wizards)
    16- Jalen Johnson (PF) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    17- Usman Garuba (PF/C) (Memphis Grizzlies)
    18- Isaiah Jackson (C) (Oklahoma City Thunder)
    19- Chris Duarte (SG/SF) (New York Knicks)
    20- Keon Johnson (SG) (Atlanta Hawks)
    21- Cameron Thomas (SG) (New York Knicks)
    22- Tre Mann (PG) (Los Angeles Lakers)
    23- Jared Butler (PG) (Houston Rockets)
    24- Ziaire Williams (SF/PF) (Houston Rockets)
    25- Sharife Cooper (PG) (Los Angeles Clippers)
    26- Joshua Primo (PG/SG) (Denver Nuggets)
    27- Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (PF) (Brooklyn Nets)
    28- Jaden Springer (PG) (Philadelphia 76ers)
    29- Miles McBride (PG/SG) (Phoenix Suns)
    30- Ayo Dosunmu (PG/SG) (Utah Jazz)
    The 76ers will likely trade the 28th pick in a package deal or for a vet but I really like Jaden Springer or Tre Mann at 28. Springer is the youngest player in the draft.

  8. #173
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    I don't see the Rockets keeping both the 23rd and 24th picks and same for the Knicks at 19th and 21st.

    Houston will likely try to trade up and NY can use those picks in a trade.

  9. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe1016 View Post
    The 76ers will likely trade the 28th pick in a package deal or for a vet but I really like Jaden Springer or Tre Mann at 28. Springer is the youngest player in the draft.
    Springer probably should've stayed in school. Youth wise and body wise he reminds me of Anfernee Simons.

  10. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by cattusmaru View Post
    Mitchell not falling to 14 like Haliburton did to 12th in the last draft where a redraft has him taken much sooner now. Davion might even be gone before 7.
    I hope he does go before 7 because that means one of the top 6 is still there at 7.

  11. #176
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    I want to see a couple of blockbuster trades this year.

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  13. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by cattusmaru View Post
    The one with the most recent chatter regarding Beal to become Curry's new backcourt mate while Klay takes over at the wing as a swingman. Then pick up someone like Boogie off free agency to play the 5.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...607.php?espv=1

    Or trade for an all star center like Vucevic from the Bulls (buyers remorse) as they are not ready to contend by replenishing their picks they traded away to Orlando plus players they want to make the salaries match for the trade but GS don't need a dominant center to win as they have proven in the past, just one that understand their role and not become a liability on the big stage when the pressure mounts.
    How they keep Curry, Klay, Wiggins, and Green AND get Beal and Vucevic is an interesting miracle.

  14. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoots View Post
    how they keep curry, klay, wiggins, and green and get beal and vucevic is an interesting miracle.
    nba2k

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    Rockets and Pacers discussing Eric Gordon and 23rd pick for Brogdon?

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