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    Supreme Court Upholds Obamacare by 7-2

    The challenge must have been really bad if they got all three Trump appointees to sign onto keeping it.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...9-840_6jfm.pdf
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

    https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...5#post33780085

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    Man, Trump sure did fail on this one!

    My condolences to all his supporters who cared soooo passionately about this issue. I'm sorry you...don't get to see millions of people lose their (honestly mediocre) insurance?

    Did we even ever see a Trump healthcare plan with any substance to it? Like, he said he'd have Obamacare repealed and replaced with something fantastic within like a month or two of his Presidency


    And when's the last time you heard a Trump supporter here talk about health care policy/reform on this site? They're always focused on the right things Like Dr. Seuss, high school sports and bathrooms!
    HELLO

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Man, Trump sure did fail on this one!

    My condolences to all his supporters who cared soooo passionately about this issue. I'm sorry you...don't get to see millions of people lose their (honestly mediocre) insurance?

    Did we even ever see a Trump healthcare plan with any substance to it? Like, he said he'd have Obamacare repealed and replaced with something fantastic within like a month or two of his Presidency


    And when's the last time you heard a Trump supporter here talk about health care policy/reform on this site? They're always focused on the right things Like Dr. Seuss, high school sports and bathrooms!
    Trump realized that he wasn't going to be able to legislate anything so he settled for fights that it didn't matter whether he won or not, your Dr. Seuss's for example.
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

    https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...5#post33780085

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    I don't know why I feel the need to clarify preemptively, but I'm obviously happy this didn't get repealed. I think that if the end goal for anyone is this present form of Obamacare, you're insane. But it's better than nothing. Truly. And it hopefully will be used as a stepping stone to something more robust, affordable and universal in coverage. Repealing it would have been very bad, obviously. Unless you're a right-winger and just don't want people to have access to health care...for whatever reason.

    Also, anything like this that gets slapped down by this court is going to elicit some schadenfreude!
    HELLO

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    bu but I thought the SC was stacked so whatever Trump wanted he'd get?

    The name really needs to go away, and hopefully if it DOES get upgraded (which it should) it will

    Basic Medicare for all should be the goal IMO. People/employers can still add a supplemental insurance to that, as many Medicare recipients do now, but the cost would go way down. Of course this univeral insurance would still have a price tag, but could be done by renaming the Medicare tax and adjusting the rate.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Just came to the obvious realization that majority of the right-wingers here probably could not actually care less about Obamacare not getting repealed

    Reactionaries. The whole lot of them! It would be comical if anyone actually was livid about this. Like, what does it matter? Lots more people are covered [insert usual criticism of the quality and cost of the coverage] and there's no possible way it has impacted your life one single bit.


    EDIT: well, looks like I'm wrong!

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/polit...ing/index.html

    Though, the reasoning is unsurprisingly stupid. "We're mad that the rollout of the website was bad and he wasn't criticized more for it"...so let's repeal the bill

    The idea that people actual care about who their insurance provider so much that they wouldn't want to never have to worry about insurance ever again?

    Insane stuff. Out of space bonkers.

    Chris Cillizza did right this so probably ignore that. I'm sure it's more to do with "durrrrr socialism bad durrrrrrrrrrrr".
    Last edited by ManRam; 06-17-2021 at 10:24 PM.
    HELLO

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    Obamacare had experience. She’s a bartender!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Just came to the obvious realization that majority of the right-wingers here probably could not actually care less about Obamacare not getting repealed

    Reactionaries. The whole lot of them! It would be comical if anyone actually was livid about this. Like, what does it matter? Lots more people are covered [insert usual criticism of the quality and cost of the coverage] and there's no possible way it has impacted your life one single bit.


    EDIT: well, looks like I'm wrong!

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/polit...ing/index.html

    Though, the reasoning is unsurprisingly stupid. "We're mad that the rollout of the website was bad and he wasn't criticized more for it"...so let's repeal the bill

    The idea that people actual care about who their insurance provider so much that they wouldn't want to never have to worry about insurance ever again?

    Insane stuff. Out of space bonkers.

    Chris Cillizza did right this so probably ignore that. I'm sure it's more to do with "durrrrr socialism bad durrrrrrrrrrrr".
    ACA had a massive impact on the cost of private insurance. Sorry you can't wrap that partisan jello head around that.
    Last edited by dbroncsinmo; 06-18-2021 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    ACA had a massive impact on the cost of private insurance. Sorry you can't wrap that partisan head around that.
    My grandmother got a refund on her health insurance (supplemental) due to the ACA. It requires that 85% of premiums go towards payments and they didn’t meet that threshold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    My grandmother got a refund on her health insurance (supplemental) due to the ACA. It requires that 85% of premiums go towards payments and they didn’t meet that threshold.
    And there you go...changing one topic to another. Need to start buying you guys sacks of cement to keep those goal posts planted in the ground.

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    Conservatives: we interpret the text of the law and Constitution as written, not how we want it to be written.

    Also conservatives:

    https://twitter.com/raverbruggen/sta...669832713?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    And there you go...changing one topic to another. Need to start buying you guys sacks of cement to keep those goal posts planted in the ground.
    Obamacare actually caused the overall GDP cost of Healthcare to go down however. And insured millions of people.

    Do you agree with a more nationalized system to control the price of insurance then?

    EDIT: I should clarify that it caused the rate of increased cost to go down, not the cost itself to go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    ACA had a massive impact on the cost of private insurance. Sorry you can't wrap that partisan jello head around that.
    For some yes, but it also made insurance affordable and possible for millions more Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    ACA had a massive impact on the cost of private insurance.
    Useless post. Positive or negative? Evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Obamacare actually caused the overall GDP cost of Healthcare to go down however. And insured millions of people.

    Do you agree with a more nationalized system to control the price of insurance then?

    EDIT: I should clarify that it caused the rate of increased cost to go down, not the cost itself to go down.
    My problem for years, going back to Hillary's push as first lady, has been....why is it they spend all this time trying to make sure everyone can get health insurance, but NO time trying to figure out why it all costs so much in the first place?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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