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    Biden should NOT run in 2024

    It was very important that Donald Trump lose the 2020 election, so Biden needed to win by default, but Biden being the President has only helped the donors and put the establishment back in charge. The things happening in Washington right now is honestly exactly why Donald Trump ever became President in the first place. The establishment doesn't work and only serves to take money out of our pockets to give to corporate donors. Take a look at the "bipartisan" infrastructure bill. Not only does it fail to effectively address our crumbling infrastructure, but it's paid for solely on the backs of the middle and lower classes. No taxes on corporations or rich people, but you can bet that it would increase the gas tax and add more tolls on roads and bridges. $15/hour minimum wage isn't under consideration because the modus operandi in Washington is to make sure everything funnels to the top.

    That's the problem, the United States is the richest nation in the history of the world, but we are collectively a very unhappy society because we treat each other like savages. We're the only nation that doesn't provide our citizens with healthcare, and placing the burden of supplying healthcare on employers helps keep wages low. Money employers could be giving their workers is instead spent on providing healthcare. We have a tax code that is designed for rich people to avoid, because they don't earn wages the same way we do. We work a job and earn wages, wages account for a fraction of rich people's income. They get paid through dividends and capitol gains. Capitol gains are taxed very differently from wages. We're operating on two very different fields of play.

    The point I'm trying to make is the system isn't fair, and it wasn't designed to be. Joe Biden doesn't want to do anything to change the system and so things are only going to continue to get worse. He was never going to be "FDR 2.0" because he's not in favor of what he was forced to campaign on to trick democratic voters into voting for him. He doesn't want $15/hour minimum wage, he doesn't want to spend on infrastructure, he and the majority of Democrats are hiding behind Joe Manchin in the Senate because they don't want to pass robust legislation that would change our country. They just want to keep flowing money to the top, which in turn takes it out of our pockets, and gaslight us all the way.

    Joe Biden is clearly not the leader we need right now, he's only more of the same and having yet another President that contributes to these systemic issues is only going to bring along someone or something that's worse than Trump. For a guy who has desperately wanted to be President longer than I've been alive, Joe Biden sure as hell isn't doing anything noteworthy. He's just another corrupt politician. We need the priorities of our government to change, and it is a black and white situation. Either we continue to funnel money to the top or we stop. We've been doing it for 50 years and the middle class is almost completely gone. We need new leaders and we need to make sure we elect a new President in 2024 because Joe Biden is inadequate.
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    This isnít a very good argument.

    The infrastructure bill that Biden has proposed isnít paid for by taxes on middle class workers.

    $15 minimum wage isnít up for discussion because it wonít get 60 votes. Itís literally a non-starter.

    They arenít hiding behind Joe Manchin. They are operating in the system that exists.

    It seems like you have a faulty understanding of how our government operates. We donít get to snap our fingers and make laws.

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    Love Biden! Hope he serves at least 2 more terms


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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerSL View Post
    It was very important that Donald Trump lose the 2020 election, so Biden needed to win by default, but Biden being the President has only helped the donors and put the establishment back in charge. The things happening in Washington right now is honestly exactly why Donald Trump ever became President in the first place. The establishment doesn't work and only serves to take money out of our pockets to give to corporate donors. Take a look at the "bipartisan" infrastructure bill. Not only does it fail to effectively address our crumbling infrastructure, but it's paid for solely on the backs of the middle and lower classes. No taxes on corporations or rich people, but you can bet that it would increase the gas tax and add more tolls on roads and bridges. $15/hour minimum wage isn't under consideration because the modus operandi in Washington is to make sure everything funnels to the top.

    That's the problem, the United States is the richest nation in the history of the world, but we are collectively a very unhappy society because we treat each other like savages. We're the only nation that doesn't provide our citizens with healthcare, and placing the burden of supplying healthcare on employers helps keep wages low. Money employers could be giving their workers is instead spent on providing healthcare. We have a tax code that is designed for rich people to avoid, because they don't earn wages the same way we do. We work a job and earn wages, wages account for a fraction of rich people's income. They get paid through dividends and capitol gains. Capitol gains are taxed very differently from wages. We're operating on two very different fields of play.

    The point I'm trying to make is the system isn't fair, and it wasn't designed to be. Joe Biden doesn't want to do anything to change the system and so things are only going to continue to get worse. He was never going to be "FDR 2.0" because he's not in favor of what he was forced to campaign on to trick democratic voters into voting for him. He doesn't want $15/hour minimum wage, he doesn't want to spend on infrastructure, he and the majority of Democrats are hiding behind Joe Manchin in the Senate because they don't want to pass robust legislation that would change our country. They just want to keep flowing money to the top, which in turn takes it out of our pockets, and gaslight us all the way.

    Joe Biden is clearly not the leader we need right now, he's only more of the same and having yet another President that contributes to these systemic issues is only going to bring along someone or something that's worse than Trump. For a guy who has desperately wanted to be President longer than I've been alive, Joe Biden sure as hell isn't doing anything noteworthy. He's just another corrupt politician. We need the priorities of our government to change, and it is a black and white situation. Either we continue to funnel money to the top or we stop. We've been doing it for 50 years and the middle class is almost completely gone. We need new leaders and we need to make sure we elect a new President in 2024 because Joe Biden is inadequate.
    Totally agree and good luck with your stance with the tribal members.
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    Good to see the progressive Democrats turn on themselves inside 6 months of Joe being in office. Not surprising in the least, I think we all knew they play to lose so it was just a matter of time.

    Should be smooth sailing for the Republicans in the House elections and then in 2024 to put the nail in the coffin for Democrats and progressive dreams.

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    Yeah, it is all the progressive fault. Dude, the democrat party had the reputation as the "do-nothing party" long before the progressive gang of four enter congress.

    Let see, american voted for a two-bit actor over a democrat, a ex-cheerleader beat a democrat and we just had a game show host beat a democrat just four years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statquo View Post
    Good to see the progressive Democrats turn on themselves inside 6 months of Joe being in office. Not surprising in the least, I think we all knew they play to lose so it was just a matter of time.

    Should be smooth sailing for the Republicans in the House elections and then in 2024 to put the nail in the coffin for Democrats and progressive dreams.
    Progressive Democrats think that we can magically snap our fingers and change policy regardless of the rules our government has in place for making laws.

    Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema recognize what will happen if they repeal the filibuster. The next time Republicans gain both chambers of congress and the presidency they will repeal all sorts of laws that they donít like and Democrats wonít be able to stop them. They learned from what Harry Reid did in 2013.

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    It isn't about snapping fingers but fulfilling the campaign promise that worthless Joe made to get in office. Agreement made to progressive to hold their nose to vote for Sleepy Joe. He did tell his donors "Nothing will change". I guess he didn't lie to them.
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    By the way, there is growing movement against Joe Manchin in his home state. It seems the West Virginians are tired of him bowing to donor's money instead of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    By the way, there is growing movement against Joe Manchin in his home state. It seems the West Virginians are tired of him bowing to donor's money instead of them.
    Whatís this alleged movement? Because that movement is going to just get his seat to a Republican. The fact is that Manchin has voted 100% with Biden. Thatís more than Booker or Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Whatís this alleged movement? Because that movement is going to just get his seat to a Republican. The fact is that Manchin has voted 100% with Biden. Thatís more than Booker or Warren.
    Well, it is their right to vote for whomever they please. They aren't putting the party's interest (shock) before their own. Pelosi lost a few seats in congress this past election because voters aren't buying the democrat bs, so keep blaming the progressive for all the democrat problems.

    Biden/Harris can only ride the election afterglow for so long before people start asking "What have you done for me lately" The ball is in Biden's court. Blaming progressives or mean old republicans for the lack of accomplishments ain't going to cut it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Progressive Democrats think that we can magically snap our fingers and change policy regardless of the rules our government has in place for making laws.

    Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema recognize what will happen if they repeal the filibuster. The next time Republicans gain both chambers of congress and the presidency they will repeal all sorts of laws that they donít like and Democrats wonít be able to stop them. They learned from what Harry Reid did in 2013.
    We can't, and due to this **** country allowing voter repression laws, it's becoming more and more clear nothing will EVER change unless there is a violent country wide revolution.


    I'm not a proponent of it but I just don't see another way for it to play out.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerSL View Post
    It was very important that Donald Trump lose the 2020 election, so Biden needed to win by default, but Biden being the President has only helped the donors and put the establishment back in charge. The things happening in Washington right now is honestly exactly why Donald Trump ever became President in the first place. The establishment doesn't work and only serves to take money out of our pockets to give to corporate donors. Take a look at the "bipartisan" infrastructure bill. Not only does it fail to effectively address our crumbling infrastructure, but it's paid for solely on the backs of the middle and lower classes. No taxes on corporations or rich people, but you can bet that it would increase the gas tax and add more tolls on roads and bridges. $15/hour minimum wage isn't under consideration because the modus operandi in Washington is to make sure everything funnels to the top.

    That's the problem, the United States is the richest nation in the history of the world, but we are collectively a very unhappy society because we treat each other like savages. We're the only nation that doesn't provide our citizens with healthcare, and placing the burden of supplying healthcare on employers helps keep wages low. Money employers could be giving their workers is instead spent on providing healthcare. We have a tax code that is designed for rich people to avoid, because they don't earn wages the same way we do. We work a job and earn wages, wages account for a fraction of rich people's income. They get paid through dividends and capitol gains. Capitol gains are taxed very differently from wages. We're operating on two very different fields of play.

    The point I'm trying to make is the system isn't fair, and it wasn't designed to be. Joe Biden doesn't want to do anything to change the system and so things are only going to continue to get worse. He was never going to be "FDR 2.0" because he's not in favor of what he was forced to campaign on to trick democratic voters into voting for him. He doesn't want $15/hour minimum wage, he doesn't want to spend on infrastructure, he and the majority of Democrats are hiding behind Joe Manchin in the Senate because they don't want to pass robust legislation that would change our country. They just want to keep flowing money to the top, which in turn takes it out of our pockets, and gaslight us all the way.

    Joe Biden is clearly not the leader we need right now, he's only more of the same and having yet another President that contributes to these systemic issues is only going to bring along someone or something that's worse than Trump. For a guy who has desperately wanted to be President longer than I've been alive, Joe Biden sure as hell isn't doing anything noteworthy. He's just another corrupt politician. We need the priorities of our government to change, and it is a black and white situation. Either we continue to funnel money to the top or we stop. We've been doing it for 50 years and the middle class is almost completely gone. We need new leaders and we need to make sure we elect a new President in 2024 because Joe Biden is inadequate.
    1. What does Biden getting elected have anything to do with any of this being able to pass or not.

    2. Instead of a $15/hr minimum wage Biden passed a refundable tax rate which will massively cut the embarrassingly high child poverty rate in the USA. A tax break that becomes available in 3 days I believe. And it won't have the economic stabilization that will inevitably happen under a 15/hr minimum wage leading to an unchanged living standard amongst the working class.

    3. It's so weird to me that supposed "leftists" and "progressives" see the difficulties in getting things passed and instead of pushing to get more left leaning candidates to win elections and give us a bigger advantage in the Senate and house are pushing against the left and are hoping for the party to fail. As if AOC and Bernie all of a sudden gaining control of the house and the Presidency would evaporate any problem with passing meaningful legislature.

    4. Your problem isn't with Joe Biden. Your problem is with Democracy. You want the President to be able to roll in rough shot and change everything that you want changed with a snap of his fingers. Unfortunately for you that's not how any successful Democracy in this World has ever worked.

    5. I'm not even going to go into detail with how incorrect and ridiculous your statement is on healthcare. It's such a mind blowing silly assertion. That somehow Employers paying for health care is the cause of low wages.

    6. So what exactly are you suggesting here exactly by the way? Joe Biden step down?

    You all just don't live in reality. You want a Trump for the left. Some wannabe totalitarian dictator that uses whatever dirty tricks he can to avoid legitimate governance.

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    No, we want the corrupt, do nothing, donor paid off politicians that we have now.
    You are just as over the top with your hysteria as some of our Trumpster posters. Two sides of the same coin.
    Last edited by WES445; 06-12-2021 at 09:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    No, we want the corrupt, do nothing, donor paid off politicians that we have now.
    You are just as over the top with your hysteria as some of our Trumpster posters. Two sides of the same coin.
    I think calling for the President to step down and not run for reelection after 5 months of being President is hysterical. Laughable too, but hysterical.

    This is all a bunch of nonsense. Please explain to me how electing someone outside of Biden helps anything?

    Who are you going to elect that isn't an establishment candidate?

    This just sounds like more attempts at blowing up the party for no ones benefit from the Regressive Reactionists again.

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