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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunuu View Post
    I just don't understand the need to hate on either guy. If someone thinks MJ is the GOAT that does not mean they hate Lebron, or vice versa.

    MJ is the GOAT for me, but I do not hate Lebron.

    6-0 > 4-6 in the finals, end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Even discounting that incident, he retired in 1998 because the coach he wanted was pushed out. Could you imagine if Tyrone Lue were pushed out in Cleveland and LeBron just retired? LeBron would have caught a rash of heat.

    Heck, LeBron would catch a rash of heat if he decided to retire this offseason and people would indeed call him a quitter.
    Jordan had already 3 peated twice. Lebron never did that despite forming superteams and being the favorite most years.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #7 preseason pick.


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    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #6 preseason pick.


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    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #8 preseason pick.


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    Cavs #1 Preseason Pick


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    Lakers #1 Preseason Pick and lose in round 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Bill Russell 11-2.
    Remember that there were only two rounds as well. From 1984 going forward you had to win 4 series a year for a title. So different circumstances.
    "Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LF85 View Post
    Haha.. Comparing Lue to Phil.. Krause blew the team up..
    Iím not comparing Lue to Phil, Iím comparing to the massive amount of hate LeBron would receive if he retired because his coach wasnít re-hired. People would be calling him a baby and a quitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    Jordan had already 3 peated twice. Lebron never did that despite forming superteams and being the favorite most years.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #7 preseason pick.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #6 preseason pick.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Lebron team the #1 preseason pick loses to the #8 preseason pick.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Cavs #1 Preseason Pick

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html
    Lakers #1 Preseason Pick and lose in round 1.
    Neat. Preseason odds donít mean nearly as much as postseason odds, a lot can happen in a season.

    Thereís also a certain irony in LeBron being so good he makes his team the preseason favorite every year and then holding that against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Neat. Preseason odds donít mean nearly as much as postseason odds, a lot can happen in a season.

    Thereís also a certain irony in LeBron being so good he makes his team the preseason favorite every year and then holding that against him.
    You couldnít hold it against him if he won. Everyone thinking he is going to win and him not winning is kind of the definition of overrated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    You're also from the Chicagoland area lol, 99.999 percent of people from there would do so

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    You couldnít hold it against him if he won. Everyone thinking he is going to win and him not winning is kind of the definition of overrated.
    No, everyone thinking he is going to win before a game is even played is being overhyped.

    For example, you guys want me to believe LeBron is overrated because he was the preseason #1 in 2015 and lost to the preseason #8 despite the fact that preseason #8 went 67-15 and LeBron faced them in the Finals without his next 2 best players.

    I think using preseason odds as a means of determining who was best postseason is the definition of stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    No, everyone thinking he is going to win before a game is even played is being overhyped.

    For example, you guys want me to believe LeBron is overrated because he was the preseason #1 in 2015 and lost to the preseason #8 despite the fact that preseason #8 went 67-15 and LeBron faced them in the Finals without his next 2 best players.

    I think using preseason odds as a means of determining who was best postseason is the definition of stupid.
    Dude had a dleague roster around him in those finals more or less. Getting that series to 6 games was astonishing

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    Dude had a dleague roster around him in those finals more or less. Getting that series to 6 games was astonishing
    He underachieved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    He underachieved...
    What a slacker lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Iím not comparing Lue to Phil, Iím comparing to the massive amount of hate LeBron would receive if he retired because his coach wasnít re-hired. People would be calling him a baby and a quitter.
    The point is, Lebron never had the same relationship with a coach as MJ did. He won all of his championships with Phil.. Why would Lebron retire if Lue wasnít rehired? They had no relationship.. Youíre reaching here..

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    Lets put this into proper context here: LeGM built his own team and quit on them. And this is the guy that his groupies claim is the goat, better then Jordan?

    The deceased Lakers legends are all rolling over in their graves after Lefrauds first round performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatEwingNBAJam View Post
    Lets put this into proper context here: LeGM built his own team and quit on them. And this is the guy that his groupies claim is the goat, better then Jordan?

    The deceased Lakers legends are all rolling over in their graves after Lefrauds first round performance
    burner?
    The Baker has come. Believe the hype.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    burner?
    For whom?


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