NBA Playoffs Series Thread (1) Sixers vs (5) Hawks Atlanta wins 4-3

[ewing]

If you don’t think Harris deserves some blame you should stop commenting. Lol


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Reading your posts I would think Harris had a terrible playoff run. He averaged 21/8 and 48/37/87 for a team that turned everything into a slug fest and was very dependant on one on one half court play

[smith&wesson]

There’s also something wrong in our developmental system. Like I’ve said, Scott O’Neal coddles these guys.

When Simmons is moved we’re gonna get a huge expose on the shortcomings of this ownership.


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I found your comparison to Fultz interesting because he also had a mental block with his shooting before he went to Orlando. I wonder if theres something to that.

[ewing]

I know it keeps getting brought up that Simmons and Embiid grade out positively when on the floor together, but ultimately, how much better could Simmons be if he was on an up and down the court team vs needing to play half court because of embiid?

I wonder if it is Embiid holding Simmons back but I do think Embiid is the guy (injuries be damned) you gamble on to build around.

You can fit more players around Embiid than you can Simmons. I could see Simmons thrive on a team more catered to his style. I could even see him start putting more into his offense.

Why aren't you wondering how god awful a team with Simmons running the point that didn't have a post monster that also a 3 level scorer would look in the half-court? I don't think you can just decide you only going to play in transition. I think Ben Simmons with the ball in the half-court is a major liability that is kept afloat by Joel

[mngopher35]

The tough part is now it is obvious to everyone Simmons needs to move and his value is at an all time low. It’s a pretty rough spot to try and get maximum value from with that performance being last thing on everyone’s mind.

Teams will definitely still have interest but the question becomes how much would anyone give to take a shot on him?


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[ewing]

I found your comparison to Fultz interesting because he also had a mental block with his shooting before he went to Orlando. I wonder if theres something to that.

That is interesting


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[warfelg]

The tough part is now it is obvious to everyone Simmons needs to move and his value is at an all time low. It’s a pretty rough spot to try and get maximum value from with that performance being last thing on everyone’s mind.

Teams will definitely still have interest but the question becomes how much would anyone give to take a shot on him?


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There will be teams. There will be a few near contenders that will take the shot and maybe a few rebuilding teams that will want to build around him.

Somethings keeping his value up:
24 with 4 years left on his deal who has only been with one team.


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[warfelg]

I found your comparison to Fultz interesting because he also had a mental block with his shooting before he went to Orlando. I wonder if theres something to that.

People mock me, but this has been a consistent issue pre-and-post Hinkie.


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[ewing]

There will be teams. There will be a few near contenders that will take the shot and maybe a few rebuilding teams that will want to build around him.

Somethings keeping his value up:
24 with 4 years left on his deal who has only been with one team.


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Disagree 4 years is killing his value


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[smith&wesson]

People mock me, but this has been a consistent issue pre-and-post Hinkie.


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No I actually think there could be something to what you're saying because were talking about two lottery draft pick players with a similar mental block. I just dont know what to point at and say thats the cause of it.

[mngopher35]

There will be teams. There will be a few near contenders that will take the shot and maybe a few rebuilding teams that will want to build around him.

Somethings keeping his value up:
24 with 4 years left on his deal who has only been with one team.


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I am sure there will be teams, I would have interest for him for say Beasley++ as others have mentioned recently (I'd give more than listed yet).

I am just saying that's far below what people would have expected a year or especially two ago for him. It will be interesting to see what they squeeze out value wise when it's all said and done. It's the worst possible time to be trading him in his career from that standpoint.

[smith&wesson]

The tough part is now it is obvious to everyone Simmons needs to move and his value is at an all time low. It’s a pretty rough spot to try and get maximum value from with that performance being last thing on everyone’s mind.

Teams will definitely still have interest but the question becomes how much would anyone give to take a shot on him?


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The good news is if any one can get close to full value for Simmons, its Morey. They have the right guy in place for the job.

One thing Ive been trying to tell 6ers fans is that its not all doom and gloom. As a Rockets fan I always had complete confidence in Morey in trying to retool the team around Harden, and to his credit he did a great job of that. Every season I felt with the moves the team made at the time, we had a better chance (accept for when we traded CP3 for RW, but that was more on Tilman)

Morey is the guy that can retool this team around Embiid and the offseason is going to be exciting. So long as Embiid is there and Morey is running the show they will always have a chance to compete for a ship.

[warfelg]

I am sure there will be teams, I would have interest for him for say Beasley++ as others have mentioned recently (I'd give more than listed yet).

I am just saying that's far below what people would have expected a year or especially two ago for him. It will be interesting to see what they squeeze out value wise when it's all said and done. It's the worst possible time to be trading him in his career from that standpoint.

It would be Russel, Beasley to start.


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[ohreally]

the ****... pass. Simmons is still 24 years old/dpoy runner up and lowry isnt staying with the raptors lol... we giving away 2 all defensive nba players for siakam who was worse then simmons and lowry who is a free agent and the age of 50? pass

I don’t see either team making that trade, but yeah, the Raptors would do better if they then flipped Simmons and one of the picks.

[mngopher35]

The good news is if any one can get close to full value for Simmons, its Morey. They have the right guy in place for the job.

One thing Ive been trying to tell 6ers fans is that its not all doom and gloom. As a Rockets fan I always had complete confidence in Morey in trying to retool the team around Harden, and to his credit he did a great job of that. Every season I felt with the moves the team made at the time, we had a better chance (accept for when we traded CP3 for RW, but that was more on Tilman)

Morey is the guy that can retool this team around Embiid and the offseason is going to be exciting. So long as Embiid is there and Morey is running the show they will always have a chance to compete for a ship.

Ya having Morey is a plus at least and probably helps the value aspect.

I just wonder where his value ends up now, it's clearly lower than it had been. Can they still package for a legitimate stud next to Embiid? Do they get a couple complimentary guys that fit well but aren't really all star types? I have no doubt they can retool but with his value at an all time low it makes it interesting what they end up with. Morey with Simmons value a couple years ago maybe can get beal or something (at least that's the type of stuff that was all over) but that's a big stretch now imo.

[smith&wesson]

It would be Russel, Beasley to start.


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They are a combined 44.4 million. 6ers would have to absorb $13.5 mill in that deal.

What about Beasley, Culver, Hernangómez + their pick if its in the top 3. If their pick lands in the top 3 you have a shot at Cade, Suggs, Green. We should find out tonight where their pick lands and if they get to keep it.