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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by COOLbeans View Post
    Patty Mills and Batum should be top priority. If they can get Olinik as well, then we can be a serious contender.
    I like patty mills and id be fine with him- but id rather have a back up pg that can run the team. Im already concerned about Jordan Poole being a floor general as I think he is a shooting guard.

    Maybe Mannion can be more of a traditional pass first point guard, but i have no idea how good he will be this yr

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOLbeans View Post
    Patty Mills and Batum should be top priority. If they can get Olinik as well, then we can be a serious contender.
    I don't get the love for Mills. He's not particularly good at anything.

    Seriously if you look at per minute production compared to JTA as an example JTA gets more boards, more assists, more steals, more blocks, and shoots a higher percentage from 2 and from 3. Mills had a negative net rating with the Spurs. I just don't get the argument.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    If you instead compare JTA to TJ you'll see that TJ is also worse than JTA in many categories but is MUCH better at passing (and creating openings), and stealing the ball.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    The dream is TJ, Olynyk/Theis/Chriss, and Batum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I don't get the love for Mills. He's not particularly good at anything.

    Seriously if you look at per minute production compared to JTA as an example JTA gets more boards, more assists, more steals, more blocks, and shoots a higher percentage from 2 and from 3. Mills had a negative net rating with the Spurs. I just don't get the argument.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    If you instead compare JTA to TJ you'll see that TJ is also worse than JTA in many categories but is MUCH better at passing (and creating openings), and stealing the ball.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    The dream is TJ, Olynyk/Theis/Chriss, and Batum.
    agreed tj makes more sense for this warriors team. if jordan poole continues to develop and eric paschall can contribute.... we will have good scoring in our second unit. we need someone to run the offense.

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    Batum is in an odd situation ... the Hornets are paying him the first $9M so unless he gets paid more than that he doesn't make any extra money. I suspect he stays with the Clippers and continues to do his best Draymond impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Batum is in an odd situation ... the Hornets are paying him the first $9M so unless he gets paid more than that he doesn't make any extra money. I suspect he stays with the Clippers and continues to do his best Draymond impression.
    with leonard out- they do have a need for him. seems like he would probablyhave a bigger role there than with the warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    with leonard out- they do have a need for him. seems like he would probablyhave a bigger role there than with the warriors.
    He wants a ring. Thatís not happening without Kawhi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    He wants a ring. Thatís not happening without Kawhi.
    There are no guarantees. And right now we don't know if Kawhi is going to miss any time.

    Basically the Warriors and Clippers can offer him the same amount of money (full TPMLE) so it comes down to whether he liked living in LA, liked playing on that team, and liked the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I don't get the love for Mills. He's not particularly good at anything.

    Seriously if you look at per minute production compared to JTA as an example JTA gets more boards, more assists, more steals, more blocks, and shoots a higher percentage from 2 and from 3. Mills had a negative net rating with the Spurs. I just don't get the argument.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    If you instead compare JTA to TJ you'll see that TJ is also worse than JTA in many categories but is MUCH better at passing (and creating openings), and stealing the ball.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021

    The dream is TJ, Olynyk/Theis/Chriss, and Batum.
    I see what youíre saying. However, Mills is shooting about 38% on six 3s per game whereas Juan shoots about 2 per game. Mills is a threat out there and needs to be guarded. Iím not sure the two should be compared yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOLbeans View Post
    I see what youíre saying. However, Mills is shooting about 38% on six 3s per game whereas Juan shoots about 2 per game. Mills is a threat out there and needs to be guarded. Iím not sure the two should be compared yet
    Okay, Wiggins, Lee, and Baze all shoot a higher percentage too, combined they take 16.6 3s a game. Add to that that Mannion and Poole improved their shooting through last season and ended pretty close to Mills percentage.

    I appreciate that Mills has seen it all and has performed in the playoffs, but I'd much rather the PT go to someone who is still improving and who does more than Mills does.

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