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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Moves03 View Post
    Who said he's never played through pain? Again, as I noted earlier, this isn't really LBJ pushing himself. Quite the opposite actually. As I said before, if we make a deep run no one will say much about this, but if we don't there will be major finger pointing at LBJ and AD.
    It dont matter if people felt they could have played or not. It have doctors and the players themselves to determine that. A fan can only be disappointed if they feel other wise. A number of stars and players missed a number of games some are not even coming back. Like Klay, J Brown, etc. Its the reality disappointed or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Moves03 View Post
    His timing seemed off, but it didnt really seem like he was struggling too much physically.
    So in other words he hid the pain enough to fool people. clearly he was not himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldawg View Post
    The only player that is made of the MJ cloth in the league today is Westbrook. So if one is expecting to see Kobe coming out the tunnel i am sorry to say your going to be disappointed. This is also not the walk it up the court jump in the post era at this time. If you have a bad wheel your going to have a difficult time on the court.
    That's OK because he's kind of a team cancer lol. He can be made of the mj cloth all he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldawg View Post
    It dont matter if people felt they could have played or not. It have doctors and the players themselves to determine that. A fan can only be disappointed if they feel other wise. A number of stars and players missed a number of games some are not even coming back. Like Klay, J Brown, etc. Its the reality disappointed or not.
    Those aren't great examples because those are guys who were playing through injuries. LBJ already sat out almost half the season so it's not like he just played through the injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldawg View Post
    So in other words he hid the pain enough to fool people. clearly he was not himself.
    His timing seemed off, other than that he seemed like himself to me. I have no idea if he hid the pain or not. I do know that if we get bounded early he will take the blame. You were even saying that if we get upset we should break up the team lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron24th View Post
    No matter what was proven in the past, what matters now is what's ahead, and he will have to prove it again, that's what being a Laker is all about, Kobe already told him how the Lakers franchise is different.
    No doubt, thatís why jumping to conclusions over a game against Houston that doesnít even matter when he is looking at the end game seems very ridiculous and petty. We need Bron to be ready to go when it matters and suffering a setback against a Houston team who we donít need him to beat would be the dumbest move in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Moves03 View Post
    What we are seeing is LBJ sitting out in games that we need him in and it seems like he can play so fans are clearly frustrated. LBJ has been durable, but the complaints aren't about his durability, they are about him not working through pain when it seems he can go. Look, if we make a deep run no one will really say too much about this...if we get upset early, the fans and LA media will crucify LBJ and AD. That is what will happen.

    Kobe characterized it perfectly back in 2018 when he said in LA, only the title matters. If you're injured they don't care, they ask "where's our championship?", if you don't have help, they don't care, they ask "where's our championship?", if you go up against a dynasty, they don't care, they ask "where's our championship?". The question is coming and there's only one way to avoid it and it's primarily the leader who will get the blame. This isn't Cleveland or Miami where fans will happy with a title. We've had 17 of them. Winning one is great, but then the focus is on wining another one the next year.
    The thing is Bron sets his bar higher than any fan/or player in the Lakers organization. Heís as dedicated to winning as anyone ever. I donít think he cares what Laker fans want or needs because ultimately heís a hell of a lot smarter and has more drive to win than any fan or any past or present player in the Lakers organization. Thatís why heís playing a a level that no 36 year old has ever played at. Winning against Houston or for the rest of the year doesnít even matter. The play in and the playoffs matter and playing in meaningless games is foolish if you are serious about winning a ring. It just funny to me when guys think there own plan for Bron is smarter than Brons plan. Heís the reason why you won and the reason why you have another chance to win. Heís a basketball genius. At some point you gotta know that no matter what you think, Bron knows more than you and heís going to put the Lakers in there best position to win based on the current circumstances. Also itís obvious a lot of guys in here have never had a high ankle sprain. Like super obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    I get what you're saying. All of you.

    I believe he's following what they perceive to be the best road to the Lakers winning again.

    We'll see how it plays out.

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    Exactly. Itís to obvious. All this laker bravado is for after they lose. Itís to early for this crap. I wonít be saying look what he did last year if they lose. But dang let them lose first before you start getting on guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Moves03 View Post
    Yep, this is why the NBA forum posters are hilarious citing all those junk analytics that they don't understand. They frankly don't know what it's like to be champs so they turn to whatever will allow them to hate on those who beat them year in and year out. Championship or bust here year in and year out. That's always been the culture here. Kobe, Shaq, and Pau used to get it pretty bad as well when we would come up short. That's how it is in laker land.
    Exactly, when they came up short. He hasnít come up short yet. If you want exact Laker rule on him after heís lost then eat your heart at. For now let the man put you guys in the best position to win by being as healthy as possible when it matters most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAllen Tx View Post
    I wouldn't waste too much time trying to explain to IKH & blams what it means to be a Lakers fan, it's like trying to explain to someone without kids the joys and frustrations of parenthood. No matter how you put it, they just can't understand.

    They'll say they kinda do because they used to watch their nephews and nieces. Lol
    I love your blissful ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    I still get what you guys are saying.

    I mean it's really what LeBron gets year to year anyway. He's expected to win a title each season.

    This is the first time he's doing this in his entire career to get ready for the playoffs.

    Let's see if it works. IF it can work it would be with Bron qb'ing the offense.

    Until I hear he's out for the season, or AD is out for the season, I think the Lakers have as good of a shot as any.

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    Yeah, thatís where they donít understand. Lebron is expected to win every year. He basically goes to the finals every year. His bar is higher than the the Lakers bar. Heís not worried about Laker pressure because he already has more pressure than Laker pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShadow42 View Post
    Lol well said. Being a Lakers fan is a different beast.
    Being Lebron is a different beast. Being a Laker is easy compared to where heís been. At least here he has a competent GM who is smart enough to bring him in on all the decisions and a destination where he can get players to come. Bron ainít scared of Laker pressure. Heís thankful that everyone is trying to win and not just him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVar Ball View Post
    This is BS

    He clearly came back too early from the ankle injury and lacked explosiveness in the 2 games he came back and the second game he reaggravated the injury and Lakers lost both of those games.


    Yes, Kobe was a warrior. But to his teamís detriment in the 2012-13 season trying to be prime Nash in the Antonio system while playing thru injury and logging 45 min a game. Achilles tear in game 80 of season 17 basically signified a long rebuild for the next 5 years until Bron came in 2018.


    Year 17-Achilles
    Year 18-knee , played only 6 games
    Year 19-shoulder, played only 35 games
    Year 20-in and out of the lineup until finishing with 60 in his final game but averaging 17.6 PPG


    Kobe was a warrior, but he clearly didnít have it in his last 3 yrs +. He sacrificed his latter part of his career combined with the 2 yrs 45 Mil + no star wanting to playing with him leading to. 5 yr rebuild before Bronís arrival.


    LeBron is in friggin year 18 ending with 2 yrs left



    You guys clearly donít know what the **** yall spewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    Yeah, thatís where they donít understand. Lebron is expected to win every year. He basically goes to the finals every year. His bar is higher than the the Lakers bar. Heís not worried about Laker pressure because he already has more pressure than Laker pressure.
    The Lakers existed before and will exist after Lebron. Being a Laker was pressure before LeBron was an unwanted nut from his dads ball sack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron24th View Post
    Seems like you didn't watch a lot of Lakers games during the rebuild (not really surprised since you lose faith pretty fast my friend) after Kobe came back from the achille injury they shut him down every year (except year 20 for his farewell tour) to not hurt our chance to tank, this had nothing to do with his health at the time.
    Your telling me that the greatest competitor to ever live sat out 75% of games and was perfectly healthy? I donít come close to believing Kobe would allow his perfectly healthy body to just sit for 3 years...heó naw.

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