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    Where does Jokicís MVP run rank?

    Nikola Jokic is going to be the MVP. Itís going to be nearly unanimous. Heíll be the first center to win it since Shaq in 2000.
    Where do you rank his MVP campaign all-time?


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    He wouldn't have won it if LeBron never got hurt. On top of that, Embiid would have been favored over him had he stayed healthy.

    He has been great and earned it but I don't think it would rank favorably all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    He wouldn't have won it if LeBron never got hurt. On top of that, Embiid would have been favored over him had he stayed healthy.

    He has been great and earned it but I don't think it would rank favorably all time.

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    Jokic was already more valuable than LeBron before he got injured. He was neck-and-neck with Embiid before he got injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    Jokic was already more valuable than LeBron before he got injured. He was neck-and-neck with Embiid before he got injured.
    he was def not neck and neck with joel at the time of the injury.. joel was literally everyones head and shoulders favorate at that point.... jokic will deserve it but unlike shaq at the time jokic isnt the best player at his position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    he was def not neck and neck with joel at the time of the injury.. joel was literally everyones head and shoulders favorate at that point.... jokic will deserve it but unlike shaq at the time jokic isnt the best player at his position.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    he was def not neck and neck with joel at the time of the injury.. joel was literally everyones head and shoulders favorate at that point.... jokic will deserve it but unlike shaq at the time jokic isnt the best player at his position.
    I'm pretty sure Jokic was right there with Embiid, or at least he should have been. LeBron was in the mix but a clear third.
    The advanced stats would say Jokic the most valuable, when you account for his unmatched offensive genius this season. The eye test now says it too, given how he's elevated the Nuggets without Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    he was def not neck and neck with joel at the time of the injury.. joel was literally everyones head and shoulders favorate at that point.... jokic will deserve it but unlike shaq at the time jokic isnt the best player at his position.
    This is a biased opinion. Just looking at their stats itís obvious Jokic does more to impact the game. How can you say Embiid is clearly better? I would think itís very close but Jokic is the more reliable player and has the more unique skill set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    This is a biased opinion. Just looking at their stats itís obvious Jokic does more to impact the game. How can you say Embiid is clearly better? I would think itís very close but Jokic is the more reliable player and has the more unique skill set.
    Stats don't show the full impact of any player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    Jokic was already more valuable than LeBron before he got injured. He was neck-and-neck with Embiid before he got injured.
    Which is every year. Dudes guaranteed to miss a good chunk of games every season. I think the fact that Jokic has the same impact if not more, and is an iron man puts him over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Which is every year. Dudes guaranteed to miss a good chunk of games every season. I think the fact that Jokic has the same impact if not more, and is an iron man puts him over.
    Joker is the MVP for me. This from a Sixer fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe1016 View Post
    Joker is the MVP for me. This from a Sixer fan
    Because youíre unbiased and fair

    With that said Embiid is still having a monster season. Canít count him out just yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    He wouldn't have won it if LeBron never got hurt. On top of that, Embiid would have been favored over him had he stayed healthy.

    He has been great and earned it but I don't think it would rank favorably all time.

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    give me Jokic over Embiid any day of the week, twice on Sunday. Whenís the last time Embiid played more than 65 games? Neveruary. In comparison Jokic hasnít missed a game and is averaging nearly a triple double.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    He wouldn't have won it if LeBron never got hurt. On top of that, Embiid would have been favored over him had he stayed healthy.

    He has been great and earned it but I don't think it would rank favorably all time.

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    Except Lebron did get hurt and Embiid never stays healthy..

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    I don't think it's going to be all that close to unanimous. But all MVPs have to be part of the context ... like MJ and LeBron not winning a few more just because they won so many the standard was higher.

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    Also Jokic runs the offense for his team. Embid doesnít have that ability. People often over look that part of Jokics game but itís one of the things that makes him truly special. The way he reads the game, gets his team mates going, he really does make his team mates better. Denver would be lost with out Jokic. But Philly can lose embiid for 20 games and still stay afloat.

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