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  1. #2236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Yeah, I think we can expect TJ for him
    We should have traded him for a C or CF when we had the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Yeah, I think we can expect TJ for him
    Might be a good thing for him that comes out of a bad situation. Coming back from those injuries the first pitch they have you start throwing is a change up. He need to figure that pitch out if he's ever going to be a starter.

    Feel bad for him, thankfully we have a lot of depth

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    It almost seems like a large of pitchers will end up having to get TJ surgery now. I've said this before, the amount of pitches and innings some of these kids are throwing at a young age is not normal. By the time they're 22-27 they already have the arm of a 40 year old pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Might be a good thing for him that comes out of a bad situation. Coming back from those injuries the first pitch they have you start throwing is a change up. He need to figure that pitch out if he's ever going to be a starter.

    Feel bad for him, thankfully we have a lot of depth
    Strange timing considering Waldichuck’s promotion
    No question who’s spot he takes, now



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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    It almost seems like a large of pitchers will end up having to get TJ surgery now. I've said this before, the amount of pitches and innings some of these kids are throwing at a young age is not normal. By the time they're 22-27 they already have the arm of a 40 year old pitcher.
    100% agree. My step bro had his 1st one after his sophomore yr in HS and another one when he was with the Rays.

    They had him throwing yr around from the time he was 13 and it destroyed his arm. He threw 94-96 as a freshman and sophomore and never got above 93 again.

    They aren't doing kids any favors having them pitch yr around as young kids, especially while they are still growing

  6. #2241
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    One sport
    One job
    One repetitive movement
    Day after day
    Year after year

    Let them play another sport in HS



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  7. #2242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    It almost seems like a large of pitchers will end up having to get TJ surgery now. I've said this before, the amount of pitches and innings some of these kids are throwing at a young age is not normal. By the time they're 22-27 they already have the arm of a 40 year old pitcher.
    Feels like 75% of starters get TJ at some point these days.

  8. #2243
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    Quote Originally Posted by EAGLES3658 View Post
    Feels like 75% of starters get TJ at some point these days.
    According to Tommy John Surgery List @MLB Player Analysis, as of 2021 a total of 534 MLB players have had TJ surgery since 1974. The total for all baseball players who had TJ surgery in 2021 was 115, making a grand total of 2,109 TJ surgeries for players on all levels of baseball, including high school, college, all levels of minor league baseball and, of course, MLB.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ON0/edit#gid=0

  9. #2244
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    In any other year I'd be bummed about Gil needing TJS. This year, however, their depth of prospects is so good I'm not concerned in the least. Waldichuk replaces him without even having to make a move. You still have the following players behind their starting 5 who are all major league ready: King, Schmidt, German, Sears, Wesneski.

    Btw, anyone else think they should bring up Banuelos and dfa Luetge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    In any other year I'd be bummed about Gil needing TJS. This year, however, their depth of prospects is so good I'm not concerned in the least. Waldichuk replaces him without even having to make a move. You still have the following players behind their starting 5 who are all major league ready: King, Schmidt, German, Sears, Wesneski.

    Btw, anyone else think they should bring up Banuelos and dfa Luetge?
    I'd think we see Gil in the bullpen for good once he comes back.

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    Scranton Railriders (13-25) (Lost a heartbreaker to Worcester, 3-2. They scored two in the 9th to take the lead, only for Worcester to respond with two of their own. Their season is spiraling out of control)

    LF Estevan Florial: 1-for-4, 2B (8), RS, 2 K
    Hitting .265 with a .794 OPS.
    CF Ender Inciarte: 0-for-4, 2 K
    3B Miguel Andujar: 1-for-4, RBI, RS
    Tied the game with a 2-out single in the 9th. Scored the lead run on a wild pitch.
    1B Greg Bird: 1-for-4
    RF Phillip Evans: 0-for-3, K
    RF Evan Alexander: 0-for-0
    PH Derek Dietrich: 0-for-1
    SS Jose Peraza: 0-for-3
    DH Rob Brantly: 1-for-2, HBP
    With Ben Rortvedt out until the 2024 election, Brantly is the #3 guy. He is 9-for-34 this season.
    C David Freitas: 1-for-3
    2B Armando Alvarez: 0-for-2

    RHP Hayden Wesneski: 4 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K
    2.31 ERA (39 IP, 24 H, 12 R, 10 ER, 3 HR, 8 BB, 41 K). He had to fight his way through four scoreless innings, allowing his only run in the 5th.
    RHP David McKay: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K
    McKay would be a candidate to replace Chad Green if his injury is long-term. Ron Marinaccio is likely the favorite for the call-up. Season: 1.84 ERA (14.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 HR, 8 BB, 21 K)
    RHP Shelby Miller: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
    2.51 ERA (14.1 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 1 HR, 3 BB, 15 K)
    RHP Greg Weissert: (L, 1-1) 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, HR

    Somerset Patriots (23-12) (A rare clunker, as they lose to Reading 12-4)

    DH Brandon Lockridge: 1-for-5, 3 K, SB (6)
    7-game hitting streak.
    RF Elijah Dunham: 1-for-4, SF, 2 RBI, K, SB (8)
    5-for-13 with two doubles, one triple and five runs batted in since his 0-for-6 game. That’s how you bounce back.
    C Josh Breaux: 0-for-4, BB, K
    CF Blake Perkins: 1-for-4, RS, 2 K, SB (10)
    3B Chad Bell: 1-for-4, RBI, 2 K
    8-for-17 with seven runs batted in over his last four games.
    SS Jesus Bastidas: 2-for-4, K, CS (2)
    LF Michael Beltre: 0-for-3, BB, K, SB (8)
    9-for-27 in May with six walks. He is 4-for-4 stealing bases.
    2B Oliver Dunn: 2-for-4, RS, 2 K
    1B Max Burt: 2-for-3, 2 2B (3), RBI, 2 RS, BB, K

    RHP Sean Boyle: 6 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 K, HR
    3.86 ERA (30.1 IP, 25 H, 18 R, 13 ER, 5 HR, 5 BB, 41 K). A 41/5 K/BB ratio always works. Other than a 3.1 IP/7 R performance, he has been solid all season.
    RHP Steven Jennings: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
    He needed this after a tough outing last time out (1.1 IP, 6 R)
    RHP Kyle Zurak: 0.1 IP, 3 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
    You know what they say: Forget the bad times and remember all the good ones.
    RHP Derek Craft: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, HR

    Hudson Valley Renegades (16-19) (Defeated Brooklyn, 3-1)

    DH Trey Sweeney: 0-for-4, K
    SS Cooper Bowman: 1-for-4, 2B (10)
    Bowman ties Jasson Dominguez for the organization’s doubles lead.
    3B Tyler Hardman: 0-for-4, 2 K
    1B Spencer Henson: 1-for-3, RS, BB, K
    10-for-28 in May.
    C Carlos Narvaez: 1-for-3, BB
    CF Aldenis Sanchez: 2-for-3, 2B (2), RS, BB, K
    LF Pat DeMarco: 0-for-4
    2B Eduardo Torrealba: 1-for-4, 2B (4), RBI, RS, 2 K
    RF Aaron Palensky: 1-for-3, RBI

    RHP Matt Sauer: (W, 1-1) 7.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, HR
    Brilliant performance. Season: 4.41 ERA (32.2 IP, 27 H, 19 R, 16 ER, 2 HR, 10 BB, 46 K)
    RHP Alex Mauricio: (S, 2) 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

    Tampa Tarpons (14-21) (Lost to St. Lucie, 7-5)

    SS Alexander Vargas: 2-for-5, RS, 2 K
    He has the average up over .200 (.202). He is 6-for-18 in his last four games.
    CF Jasson Dominguez: 0-for-2, RS, BB, HBP, K, CS (2)
    .236/.287/.386 in 136 PA. His May remains encouraging (.250/.333/.464) but the K rate still needs a lot of work.
    3B Marcos Cabrera: 0-for-4, 2 K
    1B Anthony Garcia: 1-for-4, 2 RBI, RS, K, SB (5)
    18 RBI in 30 games. In 128 career games, he has 32 home runs, 87 RBI, 85 runs, 23 stolen bases (25 attempts), and 88 walks. Oh, and there is the 191 strikeouts thing.
    2B Ben Cowles: 2-for-4, RS, K
    LF Grant Richardson: 1-for-4, RS, K, SB (3)
    RF Alex Mejia: 0-for-3, BB, 3 K
    DH Connor Cannon: 0-for-2, RBI, 2 BB
    C Ben Rice: 0-for-4, K

    RHP Richard Fitts: 4.1 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 8 K, 3 HR
    Fitts has been a bit inconsistent (perhaps giving the development team some fits!) in his first professional season. His ERA sits at 6.75 (24 IP, 31 H, 19 R, 18 ER, 3 BB, 31 K, 6 HR). Obviously, the most impressive thing is that K/BB ratio. His BABIP entering tonight was .389, so we’ll see what happens as that (likely) comes down.

    RHP Harold Cortijo: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, HR
    RHP Bailey Dees: 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
    Nice comeback performance after allowing a couple of runs over 1.1 innings his last time out. Season: 8.1 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 HR, 4 BB, 8 K
    RHP Enrique Santana: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 0 K
    RHP Trevor Holloway: 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoba Rama View Post
    In any other year I'd be bummed about Gil needing TJS. This year, however, their depth of prospects is so good I'm not concerned in the least. Waldichuk replaces him without even having to make a move. You still have the following players behind their starting 5 who are all major league ready: King, Schmidt, German, Sears, Wesneski.

    Btw, anyone else think they should bring up Banuelos and dfa Luetge?
    The worst part about Gil getting hurt is he is gone as a trade chip.

    I think Wesneski in the near future. He's pitched as both a starter and reliever so he could help in either role. He's been their best starter in AAA so far and his stuff is filthy. I read that he's been throwing all 5 pitches really, really well. Kinda reminds me of Corbin Burns with his 3 FB heavy approach.

    With as much as Waldichuk has improved his command and refined his off speed stuff, I don't think he's far behind

  13. #2248
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    another reason Flo shouldn't be sitting in AAA https://twitter.com/i/status/1527443630427889666

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    another reason Flo shouldn't be sitting in AAA https://twitter.com/i/status/1527443630427889666
    Yeah, I hate to say it but a part of me hoped that Gonzalez had a mild tweak that kept him out for a couple weeks.



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    We really need Hicks to get a tweak, We should just bring up Flo and Dom... Our lineup would benefit from some youts lol.

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