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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    What do you mean by that? Are you saying there are no factors on a market such as advertising? Attacks ads? Media to cover it? I think people scrutinizing or propping up items is part of our current market whether you call it organic or not and it isn't remotely new.

    I also guarantee if you had the exact same product but called it wonder formula that it would end up dominating the market over the product you mention. The marketing/advertising, reaction from media and general public etc. would all shift people to use the product that is not racist. You are just noting a scenario where there is something everyone would want but no competition for it.
    The market works or fails by consumers purchasing a product or not. Sure there's advertising but whether that advertising is successful or not depends on the bottom line. Not whether or not the product made the consumer feel better or not. A perfect example of this is Chick-fil-A. The CEO is apparently very religious. His views on certain issues donít always align with the public. However, consumers care more about the product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    30-40 years ago Joey lived in a poor nonwhite neighborhood and he does a drive by once a year. This gives him credibility


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    It was more like 20 years ago. FFS, im not that old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    The market works or fails by consumers purchasing a product or not. Sure there's advertising but whether that advertising is successful or not depends on the bottom line. Not whether or not the product made the consumer feel better or not. A perfect example of this is Chick-fil-A. The CEO is apparently very religious. His views on certain issues donít always align with the public. However, consumers care more about the product.
    It can work in the inverse though as well. A company could have a good product but people can choose not to buy it because of that companies morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    It can work in the inverse though as well. A company could have a good product but people can choose not to buy it because of that companies morals.
    That'd be stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    That'd be stupid.
    Would it? The GOP literally advocated doing exactly that when they advised people not to watch the NFL or MLB because of Kaepernick and the MLB changing their All-Star game location. Ditto for them advising not watching the NBA because of LeBron, or NASCAR because they prohibited Confederate Flags.

    Not doing business with a company because you disagree with their morals is actually very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Would it? The GOP literally advocated doing exactly that when they advised people not to watch the NFL or MLB because of Kaepernick and the MLB changing their All-Star game location. Ditto for them advising not watching the NBA because of LeBron, or NASCAR because they prohibited Confederate Flags.

    Not doing business with a company because you disagree with their morals is actually very common.
    And again... that'd be very stupid.

    The NFL was a decision by the employees, not the company. The MLB and NBA was a decision by the company not it's employees or consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    And again... that'd be very stupid.

    The NFL was a decision by the employees, not the company. The MLB and NBA was a decision by the company not it's employees or consumers.
    The decision Iím referring to is from consumers deciding not to watch any of those sports leagues because of their employees or decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    It can work in the inverse though as well. A company could have a good product but people can choose not to buy it because of that companies morals.
    Sure they can...but if the product is good enough, people will continue to buy it. Last i checked, Chick-fil-A is still doing quite well. The market determined the product is worth whatever the CEOs opinion on issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Sure they can...but if the product is good enough, people will continue to buy it. Last i checked, Chick-fil-A is still doing quite well. The market determined the product is worth whatever the CEOs opinion on issues.
    Sure, and the market determined Aunt Jemimaís logo, the Redskins name, etc. werenít worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Sure, and the market determined Aunt Jemimaís logo, the Redskins name, etc. werenít worth it.
    So no one bought the syrup or went to redskins games?

    I lived just outside of DC, basically the homeland of the washington football team for 10 years up until 2019. I never met anyone so offended by the name they wouldn't attend a game, and that includes people of many races.

    What happened was a loud group of mostly white liberals rode in on their white horses by contacting sponsors of the team. Eventually, it became too much for own daniel snyder. The market did nothing in this case. More people were upset with the name change than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    So no one bought the syrup or went to redskins games?

    I lived just outside of DC, basically the homeland of the washington football team for 10 years up until 2019. I never met anyone so offended by the name they wouldn't attend a game, and that includes people of many races.

    What happened was a loud group of mostly white liberals rode in on their white horses by contacting sponsors of the team. Eventually, it became too much for own daniel snyder. The market did nothing in this case. More people were upset with the name change than not.
    Those ďwhite liberals that rode in on their white horsesĒ is the market. What about that arenít you getting? The market is free to criticize or petition or demand whatever it wants, companies either agree to change or do not. In these cases the companies decided the negative publicity on their products wasnít worth the names and logos they were using so they changed it.

    You love the free market until it does something you donít like, then you become more socialist than Bernie Sanders.

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    And if youíre so upset with the name change, do what those white liberals did and petition and write Snyder letting him know how much it meant to you to call them the Redskins, see if heíll change it back.

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    As for it being a bunch of white Liberals who forced the name change, hereís a link to dozens and dozens of Native American tribes and organizations opposing the name:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ange_advocates

    No, it wasnít just white liberals who wanted the name changed, many Native Americans did as well. But I guess they donít count right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Those ďwhite liberals that rode in on their white horsesĒ is the market. What about that arenít you getting? The market is free to criticize or petition or demand whatever it wants, companies either agree to change or do not. In these cases the companies decided the negative publicity on their products wasnít worth the names and logos they were using so they changed it.

    You love the free market until it does something you donít like, then you become more socialist than Bernie Sanders.
    Lol


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