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  1. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    1) Broncos aren't set at QB yet. 2) They have a really good defense and solid offense outside of QB.
    Pretty much this. The Broncos are basically in the exact same situation they were in around 2012. Decent overall team, but bad QB; add Rodgers (and no COVID nonsense) and they go from 5-11 to 10-6 minimum.

    A lot of seemingly bad teams are solid enough that adding Rodgers easily makes them a top seed/ championship game possibility.

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    I think Rodgers wants to move teams mostly "just because" and is trying to attach reasons to it to deflect.

    Peyton Manning was pretty good, but had lots of 1-and-dones in his career. Changed teams, went to Denver, boom, records. Peyton cemented his legacy.

    Tom Brady was really good, but no one was really sure if BB or TB was the reason (or both). Changed teams, went to Tampa, boom, superbowl. Brady likely cemented his GOAT-ship in a way he never could have done with the Pats.

    I think Rodgers saw this and basically wants some of that. He'll be a "yeah he was good but only 1 SB" QB in 10 years. An also-ran in an age of good QBs. He's expecting to move and make a big impact like Peyton and Brady did.
    Dak: 17,634 @ 66.0%, 7.7 per att, 106+24 TD, 40 INT+34 FMB, 97.3 Rate
    Wentz: 16,811 @ 62.7%, 6.7 per att, 113+8 TD, 50 INT+58 FMB, 89.2 Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by manbearchef View Post
    I'll eat a shoe if BB is still coaching in 5 years.
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    Sticking to traditions:

    IF Wentz is a Philadelphia Eagle in 2021, he will be the starter. If not, bye bye PSD, I'll leave.
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    This about sums up the current situation.
    Dak: 17,634 @ 66.0%, 7.7 per att, 106+24 TD, 40 INT+34 FMB, 97.3 Rate
    Wentz: 16,811 @ 62.7%, 6.7 per att, 113+8 TD, 50 INT+58 FMB, 89.2 Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by manbearchef View Post
    I'll eat a shoe if BB is still coaching in 5 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Sticking to traditions:

    IF Wentz is a Philadelphia Eagle in 2021, he will be the starter. If not, bye bye PSD, I'll leave.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
    -Scott van Pelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    So, why would he supposedly be focused on a trade to the Broncos now? I mean, I'd think he'd be looking for a team that would be a Super Bowl contender by adding him. Is he thinking he'd have the pull Tom Brady did to get people to follow him? They haven't thus far. I'm sure he actually preferred SF, but that ship has sailed. This may take a 3 team deal to pull off.
    Rodgers doesn't have any sort of no trade clause, so he really has no choice in where he'd be traded to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.m.g. View Post
    At this point I'd just trade him. Rumor has it he wants the GM fired and considering he got Mike McCarthy fired, it shows he's a toxic player. No matter how good he is, it isn't worth the drama.
    MM got himself fired by being an awful coach the last few years in GB.

  6. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by manbearchef View Post
    Pretty much this. The Broncos are basically in the exact same situation they were in around 2012. Decent overall team, but bad QB; add Rodgers (and no COVID nonsense) and they go from 5-11 to 10-6 minimum.

    A lot of seemingly bad teams are solid enough that adding Rodgers easily makes them a top seed/ championship game possibility.
    This, plus he knows Fangio pretty well from their time against one another when Fangio was the DC in Chicago. He's spoken fairly highly of him in the past. Not sure the exact setup in Denver, but I think Rodgers kind of wants some control over the offense as well. Having a defensive minded HC probably helps give him more control over the offense.

    Outside of that, from a purely speculative move, his now fiance has a place in Colorado, so she clearly likes the area. And I do believe he's angling to set up his life after football. I don't think he intended on retiring any time too soon but he's also smart enough to know to make any inroads on where he wants to go post football. He's a west coast guy, so he wants to go west. I know Colorado isn't that far west, but he is saving some travel time if he intends on spending more time in California as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    This, plus he knows Fangio pretty well from their time against one another when Fangio was the DC in Chicago. He's spoken fairly highly of him in the past. Not sure the exact setup in Denver, but I think Rodgers kind of wants some control over the offense as well. Having a defensive minded HC probably helps give him more control over the offense.

    Outside of that, from a purely speculative move, his now fiance has a place in Colorado, so she clearly likes the area. And I do believe he's angling to set up his life after football. I don't think he intended on retiring any time too soon but he's also smart enough to know to make any inroads on where he wants to go post football. He's a west coast guy, so he wants to go west. I know Colorado isn't that far west, but he is saving some travel time if he intends on spending more time in California as well.
    if you're going that route, the Broncos GM just came over from years with the Vikings, so Paton would know him well, too.

    I hadn't caught that the Broncos also have the cap space without need to purge to fit him in.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    IF ARod leaves for sure Davante Adams will also. Adams is in the final year of his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe1016 View Post
    IF ARod leaves for sure Davante Adams will also. Adams is in the final year of his contract.
    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ect-my-future/

    The four-time Pro Bowler told Colin Cowherd on Monday that he supports his quarterback “100 percent” and that Rodgers’ future could affect his future.

    “Potentially. Potentially,” Adams said on The Herd. “That’s my guy. That’s the only guy I’ve had other than that 2017 season when he got hurt. That’s the only guy that I’ve played with. We’ve built up a special connection over the years that has put us both in really good positions in our career. Not that he needed me to come along for it, because he was already in that spot.

    “We’ve established a lot together. It would change a lot, man. It doesn’t mean I’d be gone, but I’d definitely have to do some extra thinking if my guy wasn’t here.”




    Seems like Rodgers should have held this tantrum for next offseason so he could go with Adams.

    Might make trades more interesting now. If you assume you're 100% losing Adams, you might as well trade him with Rodgers.

    Broncos get:
    Rodgers
    Adams

    Packers get:
    Drew Lock
    Jerry Jeudy
    1st 2022
    1st 2023
    1st 2024
    2nd 2022

    Might work?
    Dak: 17,634 @ 66.0%, 7.7 per att, 106+24 TD, 40 INT+34 FMB, 97.3 Rate
    Wentz: 16,811 @ 62.7%, 6.7 per att, 113+8 TD, 50 INT+58 FMB, 89.2 Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by manbearchef View Post
    I'll eat a shoe if BB is still coaching in 5 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Sticking to traditions:

    IF Wentz is a Philadelphia Eagle in 2021, he will be the starter. If not, bye bye PSD, I'll leave.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
    -Scott van Pelt

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    He didn't say he's leaving. He said Rodgers would impact his decision for sure.

    And I would say no chance that's the deal. Lock is a nothing at this point. Packers drafted Love for a reason. Maybe they'd be interested in a 1 year stop gap vet, but Lock isn't that guy.

    If the Packers are moving Rodgers, it's a player and honestly probably 3 1sts. Dude is coming off a legit MVP season. So youre basically throwing in adams for Lock and a 2nd. No chance that's the going rate.

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    I am going to love the excuses when he does get traded and the super loaded packers go 3-13 and adams isnt a top 25 wideout. The excuses from the crew that he has all this talent will be ****ing amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    I am going to love the excuses when he does get traded and the super loaded packers go 3-13 and adams isnt a top 25 wideout. The excuses from the crew that he has all this talent will be ****ing amazing.
    Are you also gonna love it when they go 7-10 with a scrub QB because they have a top OL and running game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    I am going to love the excuses when he does get traded and the super loaded packers go 3-13 and adams isnt a top 25 wideout. The excuses from the crew that he has all this talent will be ****ing amazing.
    BTW your fav stat is out: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...rceptions-2020

    Mahomes 13 adjusted INT vs Rodgers 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    packers go 3-13
    works for me
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    I am going to love the excuses when he does get traded and the super loaded packers go 3-13 and adams isnt a top 25 wideout. The excuses from the crew that he has all this talent will be ****ing amazing.
    This. That organization has been holding a once in a generation talent for 16 years right after having a once in a generation talent for the prior 16 years (with 3 years of overlap). It's on them that they haven't built a full team around him to take advantage of his rare abilities to win.

    I'd be shocked if they won more than 5 games without him.

    Don't worry. He's got this.

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