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  1. #151
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    Dude you are brain dead. You know what they could do instead?

    Say "we refuse trade with the US".

    Which even after massive sanction Iraq still traded us oil through the oil for food program. They were desperate to trade with anyone they were allowed to.

    Why couldn't we just exchange dollars for euros and buy the oil with euros?

    Why wouldn't we buy oil from the Saudis? Or Kuwait? Or Mexico? Or Brazil? Or Canada?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    Even still. Your logic behind that response is laughable. We have a multiple party system here in Canada. You have 2 parties which both push for the same things.
    False. I see you've been sucking the teet of far left media.

    And doesn't Canada basically have 2 parties that actually ever win at the federal level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    My biggest fear is The Taliban start attacking us after we don’t leave May 1st and then the attacks are used to justify delaying the September 11th withdrawal.
    They already HAVE started attacking us after we made it clear we weren't leaving on May 1st. And if were leaving on Sept 11th unconditionally then the Taliban has no incentive to negotiate in good faith with the current govt, which means no deal will be struck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Nah. Taliban want nothing to do with that mess. They want us gone.

    Now could they come in and raise hell the minute we leave? Killing thousands and essentially enslaving millions? Very possible. That's why we have to be tactful.
    What is "being tactful" mean, they have no incentive to negotiate in good faith with the current govt since we announced were leaving in Sept unconditionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    It happened again when Trump decided to leave Syria.

    And whether they lied or not... it was a massive failure of a decision.

    I don't see how the US benefited in any way from killing Solemani.
    If he didn't pull out we'd be in the same position in Syria that we are in Afghanistan, and you'd be making a thread praising Biden for "pulling us put of Syria" the only positive that came out of Obama's disaster of a policy in Libya was that he didn't send troops in.

    Solemnity was 2nd in line to take over Iran after their current leader the Ayotola, he was the known success, and he was personally responsible for planning, training, funding and orchestrating terror groups throughout the region.
    The whole area is safer with him dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    False. I see you've been sucking the teet of far left media.

    And doesn't Canada basically have 2 parties that actually ever win at the federal level?
    You gotta em there.

    In fact, there was only one time in Canadian history where the Liberals and the Conservatives weren't the two largest parties, I think it was in the 90's when the liberals had a smaller coalition than the NDP. But that time was brief.

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    One man's terrorist is another hero. Which is a major problem for us. Yes, we cheer when we killed that general, but millions of Arabs mourn his passing and it fortifies their distrust and hates for us. Yes, great plan for escalating the middle east conflicts when most Americans just want to get out of these wars. So, who was really served by this hit?

    And with him dead, has the whole area become safer? No, they are still fighting in the various regions throughout the middle east. Did it help us stop Iran's nuclear research? Did it bring peace to Syria? No
    A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.

    Martin Luther King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    One man's terrorist is another hero. Which is a major problem for us. Yes, we cheer when we killed that general, but millions of Arabs mourn his passing and it fortifies their distrust and hates for us. Yes, great plan for escalating the middle east conflicts when most Americans just want to get out of these wars. So, who was really served by this hit?

    And with him dead, has the whole area become safer? No, they are still fighting in the various regions throughout the middle east. Did it help us stop Iran's nuclear research? Did it bring peace to Syria? No
    Millions of people in his OWN COUNTRY cheered his death, this was a man who a few weeks prior led a crack down on protestors that killed thousands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    lol

    To #1. Reagan was an actor. He reluctantly admitted to selling chemical weapons while at the same time claiming he never knew.

    To #3. Yes. You can't buy oil if the guy selling it won't accept your money. That's why you invaded him.
    Yep Reagan had no problem selling weapons to terrorists or otherwise criminal actors. He (and our government) armed Iraq while the Russians armed Iran. We used them as proxies to test our weaponry and do things that we couldn't be officially tied to.
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

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    With regards to the earlier discussion about the boogeymen and the intelligence community, we have some RUSSIA!!!!! news!

    U.S. Intel Walks Back Claim Russians Put Bounties on American Troops
    It was a blockbuster story about Russia’s return to the imperial “Great Game” in Afghanistan. The Kremlin had spread money around the longtime central Asian battlefield for militants to kill remaining U.S. forces. It sparked a massive outcry from Democrats and their #resistance amplifiers about the treasonous Russian puppet in the White House whose admiration for Vladimir Putin had endangered American troops.

    But on Thursday, the Biden administration announced that U.S. intelligence only had “low to moderate” confidence in the story after all. Translated from the jargon of spyworld, that means the intelligence agencies have found the story is, at best, unproven—and possibly untrue.

    “The United States intelligence community assesses with low to moderate confidence that Russian intelligence officers sought to encourage Taliban attacks U.S. and coalition personnel in Afghanistan in 2019 and perhaps earlier,” a senior administration official said.

    Continue reading: https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-int...merican-troops
    This will be less of a story than the actually story was. Honestly, I remember all of the hubbub of this story but did not follow it, even one bit. It smelled fishy then. It popped up at a fishy time. And then I saw the Libs using it to argue why Trump was wrong to want to pull out all the troops. And alas, it was probably all a bunch of hot air.
    HELLO

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    They already HAVE started attacking us after we made it clear we weren't leaving on May 1st. And if were leaving on Sept 11th unconditionally then the Taliban has no incentive to negotiate in good faith with the current govt, which means no deal will be struck.
    By current government do you mean the US or Afghani? Because no deal was getting struck either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    They already HAVE started attacking us after we made it clear we weren't leaving on May 1st. And if were leaving on Sept 11th unconditionally then the Taliban has no incentive to negotiate in good faith with the current govt, which means no deal will be struck.
    Sounds like you're describing a problem for the Afghan government not the US government.
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    With regards to the earlier discussion about the boogeymen and the intelligence community, we have some RUSSIA!!!!! news!



    This will be less of a story than the actually story was. Honestly, I remember all of the hubbub of this story but did not follow it, even one bit. It smelled fishy then. It popped up at a fishy time. And then I saw the Libs using it to argue why Trump was wrong to want to pull out all the troops. And alas, it was probably all a bunch of hot air.
    What a way to run a country. Inventing boogymen and revving up the fear factor.
    A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.

    Martin Luther King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Millions of people in his OWN COUNTRY cheered his death, this was a man who a few weeks prior led a crack down on protestors that killed thousands.
    I don't believe this because it runs counters to the reports that came out of Iran soon after his death.
    A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.

    Martin Luther King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    False. I see you've been sucking the teet of far left media.

    And doesn't Canada basically have 2 parties that actually ever win at the federal level?
    Lol whatever you say there, buddy. You've just launched a bunch of personal attacks which is a huge sign of weakness

    Unfortunately yes, the Libs and Cons have been running the country at the Federal level in my lifetime. However the party I vote for (NDP) has won a few provincial elections in my lifetime. One of their former leaders (Jack Layton) was making a push for winning the Federal election until he unfortunately passed away from cancer. He did however win enough seats to become leader of the official opposition in Canada. You see, we usually have a minority government and Jack Layton won enough seats in order to make monumental changes to our government. Our system is much different than yours but hey, you seem to know how the President of Canada does his bidding.
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    Facts can be hypothetical.

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