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  1. #46
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    Do we have concern for these people and their due process? Or just the cops that kill people in broad daylight and hypotheticals regarding them?

    https://www.thenation.com/article/so...ail-workhouse/

    Almost everyone being held at the CJC is a pretrial detainee. Hundreds have been waiting over a year for their day in court. Because of Covid-19 shut-downs, St. Louis City has gone a little over a year without holding a single jury trial. “I know some people that’ve been waiting in there for six years,” says Eric Ware, an organizer at Ex-Incarcerated People Organizing St. Louis. “That’s six years without ever walking outside.” In an interview with The Nation, Ware said that inadequate Covid-19 protections are only part of the story. He also pointed to a lack of medical care, widespread abuse, and unprofessionalism by correctional officers, retaliatory and arbitrary punishment, overcrowding, and overpriced commissary.
    HELLO

  2. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Do we have concern for these people and their due process? Or just the cops that kill people in broad daylight and hypotheticals regarding them?

    https://www.thenation.com/article/so...ail-workhouse/
    Not directly related, but I know of a case where a guy was held for 14 months, the charges were dropped for a total lack of evidence, he lost his job and all of his property, and not only does he not get compensation for what the state did to him, they CHARGED HIM RENT AND BOARD FOR HIS STAY IN JAIL!

    This sort of stuff and civil asset forfeiture are the clearest most blatant examples of how broken our system is.

  3. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Oh and for the record yes the media dies go too hard on people sometimes before the facts are there.

    This is not one of those times.
    They say if it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, swims and has feathers...

  4. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Why on earth would you call someone a *former minor* if not to poison the well for the reader and make things sound more serious than they are.

    Have you ever had sex with a former minor?

    If they don't have evidence to suggest that she was under 18 and they have eye whitness testimony from someone close to the situation who has nothing to gain claiming otherwise, then why would you even suggest it?
    Just to update the situation, they do appear to have evidence to suggest she was under 18 when she had sex with Rep. Gaetz:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/joel-g...sex-with-minor

    A direct eye witness it turns out.

    How much longer are you going to defend him?

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    nvm
    Last edited by ManRam; 05-06-2021 at 05:28 PM. Reason: .
    HELLO

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