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    Question Is the Republican Party deliberately destroying themselves?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    Or are they just too dumb to notice?

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    I realize I am a newb here and don't carry any sway, but I think the article I posted deserves some consideration.

    Certainly there are those here who can enlighten me, but what IS the Republican Platform? What are they actively doing for the people of this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    I realize I am a newb here and don't carry any sway, but I think the article I posted deserves some consideration.

    Certainly there are those here who can enlighten me, but what IS the Republican Platform? What are they actively doing for the people of this country?
    I am not necessarily the best person to respond here, largely because I have no clue as what the national party stands for other than gaining and maintaining power. Maybe they were once the party of fiscal responsibility (maybe, but in reality probably not). Or family values (again, a stretch). They don’t want immigrants. That’s about the best I can come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    I am not necessarily the best person to respond here, largely because I have no clue as what the national party stands for other than gaining and maintaining power. Maybe they were once the party of fiscal responsibility (maybe, but in reality probably not). Or family values (again, a stretch). They don’t want immigrants. That’s about the best I can come up with.
    Yeah I would really like to know what they stand for but I come up with similar answers to yours.

    When I was young the Republican Party was largely composed of idealists and even quite a few intellectuals. They were progressive in their thinking and looking for solutions to common problems. Unfortunately, when the Southern Democrats abandoned their party after the passing of the Civil Rights Act and joined the Republicans things have gone downhill ever since. I personally believe that Karl Rove had a great deal of responsibility changing the party to an "anything goes" one that felt that winning was the only thing and nothing was off limits to achieve this. Spinning, lying, character assassination and so forth were all acceptable tactics to achieve their goals--which were mostly just about winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    Or are they just too dumb to notice?
    Or are these new dem voters the ones who are dumb.

    Any improvement for minorities under the dems???

    Do millennials have any valid ideas at all other than it sounds nice???

    Can any of all these new dems show us anything that the dems have done???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Or are these new dem voters the ones who are dumb.

    Any improvement for minorities under the dems???

    Do millennials have any valid ideas at all other than it sounds nice???

    Can any of all these new dems show us anything that the dems have done???
    Good point. With McConnell and other obstructionists in both houses when controlled by the Republicans virtually nothing got done.

    Biden got the COVID relief bill through and has some excellent plans to get this country safer and back to work. Of course actually accomplishing anything does seem to go against the grain with the Republicans. So we shall see. It will clearly be an uphill battle to do anything that benefits ordinary people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    Good point. With McConnell and other obstructionists in both houses when controlled by the Republicans virtually nothing got done.

    Biden got the COVID relief bill through and has some excellent plans to get this country safer and back to work. Of course actually accomplishing anything does seem to go against the grain with the Republicans. So we shall see. It will clearly be an uphill battle to do anything that benefits ordinary people.
    Bold 1……what are these plans???

    Bold 2……how does this differ from what the dems did toi Trump???

    If you want to see the difference between the two parties you only need to go back to Obama's "you didn't build that" speech. He pointed out how successful people didn't reach that success on their own. He (incredibly) pointed out how successful people didn't build the roads in front of their building nor did they build the building. In his mind, this constituted help. In that speech alone he lost tens of thousands of supporters if not more. In those few words, he insulted successful people.

    Successful people are successful on their own. They achieve success through their own devices (OK, some are of the lucky genes and inherit a good starting point [see Trump, Donald]), but the vast majority of successful people are self made. You don't finish at the top of your class because someone wrote a good textbook. This point, perhaps more than any other point, is the difference between the dems and repubs.

    What Obama completely missed in his speech was that the roads and the buildings etc. created opportunities to succeed. Some people take advantage of those opportunities while others do not.

    What repubs do is to work within these opportunities that are open to everyone. It's up to each individual to make something out of it. If you succeed, you will grow, and grow on your own. Dems, on the other hand, hand out free stuff to people that keep expecting more free stuff … forever. It's the old story……if you are hungry, the dems will give you a fish to fry, and then another fish tomorrow and on and on. The repubs will give you a fishing pole,, point you to the water and you can go it alone from there.

    What most repubs want from their government is to just get out of the way and let us live off the fruits of out labor. Reasonable protective legislation and taxation is understandable, just don't hold us back with pie in the sky silliness.. And don't waste our $$$

    Think it thru a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Bold 1……what are these plans???

    Bold 2……how does this differ from what the dems did toi Trump???

    If you want to see the difference between the two parties you only need to go back to Obama's "you didn't build that" speech. He pointed out how successful people didn't reach that success on their own. He (incredibly) pointed out how successful people didn't build the roads in front of their building nor did they build the building. In his mind, this constituted help. In that speech alone he lost tens of thousands of supporters if not more. In those few words, he insulted successful people.

    Successful people are successful on their own. They achieve success through their own devices (OK, some are of the lucky genes and inherit a good starting point [see Trump, Donald]), but the vast majority of successful people are self made. You don't finish at the top of your class because someone wrote a good textbook. This point, perhaps more than any other point, is the difference between the dems and repubs.

    What Obama completely missed in his speech was that the roads and the buildings etc. created opportunities to succeed. Some people take advantage of those opportunities while others do not.

    What repubs do is to work within these opportunities that are open to everyone. It's up to each individual to make something out of it. If you succeed, you will grow, and grow on your own. Dems, on the other hand, hand out free stuff to people that keep expecting more free stuff … forever. It's the old story……if you are hungry, the dems will give you a fish to fry, and then another fish tomorrow and on and on. The repubs will give you a fishing pole,, point you to the water and you can go it alone from there.

    What most repubs want from their government is to just get out of the way and let us live off the fruits of out labor. Reasonable protective legislation and taxation is understandable, just don't hold us back with pie in the sky silliness.. And don't waste our $$$

    Think it thru a little bit.
    Literally no successful person will say this. It's among the dumbest things ever uttered not only on this forum, but possibly in the history of not only the English language, but all language in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Literally no successful person will say this. It's among the dumbest things ever uttered not only on this forum, but possibly in the history of not only the English language, but all language in general.
    Yep. Republicans gave Obama crap for saying it, but he was 100% right.
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

    https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...5#post33780085

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Literally no successful person will say this. It's among the dumbest things ever uttered not only on this forum, but possibly in the history of not only the English language, but all language in general.
    You are so far off base you could get picked off by a quadraplegic catcher.

    Successful people are successful on their own. The end result is based purely on their abilities.Even hiring the most talented people shows success in judgement to hire those people in the first place. A successful person will always appreciate, complement, stroke his employees and allow them to also succeed but he is the one that made the decision to hire them and his direction allowed him to use their skills to his success.

    What Obama said in his "you didn't build that" speech was insulting and many took it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Literally no successful person will say this. It's among the dumbest things ever uttered not only on this forum, but possibly in the history of not only the English language, but all language in general.
    I disagree... Successful people are often delusional about the causes of their success. If we stopped and realized how random and uncontrollable life actually is, I mean just stop and think about the random improbability of any individual person to exist in the first place, you would end up in some sort of lovecraftian maddness. it PAYS to be delusional. Quite literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Or are these new dem voters the ones who are dumb.

    Any improvement for minorities under the dems???

    Do millennials have any valid ideas at all other than it sounds nice???

    Can any of all these new dems show us anything that the dems have done???
    Maybe you missed it, but this thread is about the Republican Party, not whattabbout the Democratic Party.

    Do tell us, what does the Republican Party stand for (not what they might have once stood for or what you imagine they stand for).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Maybe you missed it, but this thread is about the Republican Party, not whattabbout the Democratic Party.

    Do tell us, what does the Republican Party stand for (not what they might have once stood for or what you imagine they stand for).
    Read my last post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Read my last post.
    Well, gee, I guess I should have known you were going to post that 16 minutes after I posted. And what you wrote is still off target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Any improvement for minorities under the dems???
    I thought you said anything that can be done for minorities has been done. So whats left to improve?

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