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    The Sovietization of the American Press

    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-so...f-the-american

    This is from Matt Taibbi, he's a lefty progressive, who used to work for Rolling Stone among a whole bunch of other places.

    If the mods feel like this should be in another thread, so be it, but I think it does a very good job of highlighting the current state of the media, and media cheerleading.

    This quote stands out for me.
    This format isn’t all that different from the one we had before, except in one respect: without the superficial requirement to tend to a two-party balance, the hagiography in big media organizations flies out of control. These companies already tend to wash out people who are too contentious or anti-establishment in their leanings. Promoted instead, as even Noam Chomsky described a generation ago, are people with the digestive systems of jackals or monitor lizards, who can swallow even the most toxic piles of official nonsense without blinking. Still, those reporters once had to at least pretend to be something other than courtiers, as it was considered unseemly to openly gush about a party or a politician.

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    When the News section (not opinions) section is pumping out things like this.


    On Friday, “Scranton Joe” Biden, whose five-decade political identity has been largely shaped by his appeal to union workers and blue-collar tradesmen like those from his Pennsylvania hometown, will sign into law a $1.9 trillion spending plan that includes the biggest antipoverty effort in a generation…

    The new role as a crusader for the poor represents an evolution for Mr. Biden, who spent much of his 36 years in Congress concentrating on foreign policy, judicial fights, gun control, and criminal justice issues… Aides say he has embraced his new role… [and] has also been moved by the inequities in pain and suffering that the pandemic has inflicted on the poorest Americans…
    Or Politico's coverage of his speech that he just gave.
    We now know in advance that every Biden address will be reviewed as historic and exceptional. It was only a mild shock to see Chris Wallace say Biden’s was the "the best inaugural address I have ever heard.” More predictable was Politico saying of Thursday night’s address that “it is hard to imagine any other contemporary politician making the speech Biden did… channeling our collective sorrow and reminding us that there is life after grief.” (Really? Hard to imagine any contemporary politician doing that?).
    So no other contemporary political figure could have done that? Not even Cuomo who's dick they had been sucking for months, or Obama? Really ****ing nobody?

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    Damn commies!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Damn commies!!!!
    The term "Sovietization" is really in reference to the propagandizing of MSM news coverage, not nescasarially an analogy to state control of the markets.

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    In Soviet America, corporate media owns you!
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    Facts can be hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    The term "Sovietization" is really in reference to the propagandizing of MSM news coverage, not nescasarially an analogy to state control of the markets.
    Then it’s an awful term that doesn’t fit at all and is there simply to be sensationalist and try to tie in the ever so popular socialism tag in every possible way.

    Sounds like someone needs to look in the mirror before they complain as they are pushing propaganda themselves.


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    Interesting article, but Taibbi needed to broadened his examples beyond the New York Times (which as we already know, is as close to a Biden mouthpiece as Fox was to Trump).

    Sure, the Times may be a leader in American print media, but it does not, in and of itself, represent all of “The American Press.”

    This is not to dismiss Taibbi’s point; rather to demand wider research.

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    Those soviets and their Pro-Biden hyperbole


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    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    I've long been a defender of media in general not having a major impact on individual actions. Like violent movies/video games don't make people violent. But the breakdown of the news over the last 40 years has been a clear sign that when what is being put out there in the name not just of "fact" but "important fact" the influence is huge.

    The sad thing is that the journalists I trust have no idea how to fix it other than that they don't want the government anywhere near trying to fix speech. They do generally like the BBC news which is a news system paid for by the public but with very strict division of it and the government to the point they are maybe MORE antagonistic to every politician.

    $10 a month from every tax payer and we can have 24 hour news with no need to chase viewers with sensationalist opinion loaded stories.

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    I am curious about the state of news feeds like the Associated Press and so forth. I was commenting to my wife that I saw several of the same topics in the same order on three different news sites yesterday. The verbiage was pretty similar too.

    I learned a long time ago while stationed in Korea that we do have censorship in this country. Articles about political issues, riots and so forth appeared in The Stars and Stripes and Korean news that never made it to the airways over here. Just how much that may have changed or how pervasive it is today I could not tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I've long been a defender of media in general not having a major impact on individual actions. Like violent movies/video games don't make people violent. But the breakdown of the news over the last 40 years has been a clear sign that when what is being put out there in the name not just of "fact" but "important fact" the influence is huge.

    The sad thing is that the journalists I trust have no idea how to fix it other than that they don't want the government anywhere near trying to fix speech. They do generally like the BBC news which is a news system paid for by the public but with very strict division of it and the government to the point they are maybe MORE antagonistic to every politician.

    $10 a month from every tax payer and we can have 24 hour news with no need to chase viewers with sensationalist opinion loaded stories.
    That is a very interesting point. Might be a tad more difficult to administer than it first appears. I said many years ago when Ted Turner launched 24 hour news that it might be the end of objective journalism. Of course, I am so old I remember Walter Cronkite as a child. Not there was some evening news.

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    Crap. "Now"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    That is a very interesting point. Might be a tad more difficult to administer than it first appears. I said many years ago when Ted Turner launched 24 hour news that it might be the end of objective journalism. Of course, I am so old I remember Walter Cronkite as a child. Not there was some evening news.
    The elimination of the FCC’s fairness doctrine in 1988 had a lot to do with it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    The elimination of the FCC’s fairness doctrine in 1988 had a lot to do with it as well.
    Agreed. Very much so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    The elimination of the FCC’s fairness doctrine in 1988 had a lot to do with it as well.
    Should definitely be brought back.

    As well maybe there should be a label between news and opinion they have to label when they blend the two or engage in loaded and leading language.


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