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  1. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron24th View Post
    That's crazy I don't even know when that became a thing, probably harden's fault...
    It's always Hardens fault, lol

    But it is so far off from a foul that it puts a bad spin on the game

    It encourages a player to lean forward to shoot

    If an offensive player initiates the contact the foul is on him, period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron24th View Post
    Don't forget when a player throw himself into the defender and the refs are biting...
    Lol oh ya. I forgot the baiting. Thatís the worse one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    You're giving some things that are true , sure. But that doesn't change the fact due to defensive rule changes, defenses are harder to attack strategically.

    NBA players are bigger faster stronger- watch the 90s and 80s. There were some borderline non-athletes out there that the greats were able to take advantage of.

    The expansion of the NBA in led to a watered down talent pool in not only the 80s, but 90s as well.


    These are all true, and at the very least cancel out the things you're saying.

    It's different now.

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    Well the post up game is gone. Every team does a high pick or high pick n roll to get their offense started. Or they drive off the pick and kick it out to 3 point shooters. The 3 pointer is dominating the game where skill level of actually being able to do post ups and the footwork involved with it is pretty much gone. The last person to actually post up properly with proper footwork was a shooting guard named Kobe Bryant. He learned it from Hakeem. Thatís sad.

    If we played like that no one would touch us. Imagine Lebron in the post half the time and kicking it out when he got double teamed. Even AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeShowAZ View Post
    It's always Hardens fault, lol

    But it is so far off from a foul that it puts a bad spin on the game

    It encourages a player to lean forward to shoot

    If an offensive player initiates the contact the foul is on him, period
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShadow42 View Post
    Lol oh ya. I forgot the baiting. Thatís the worse one.
    That's the worst thing ever created by players and refs...

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