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  1. #1921
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    Yeah I literally acknowledged every point in your post in the one you quoted.

    My question is “is it repeatable”? Because it has to be if we are going to roll out another team as strong as this years.
    It might be. I don’t know but I look forward to finding out. I’m just stating what needs to happen in order for us to roll out a better team than last seasons, without paying Ray and semien.
    Not quite, but thats fine. Ive pointed out that Atkins has proven he can find mlb talent on the cheap. Even without Ray, Berrios, Manoah, Ryu and Matz probably lines up as one of the best, if not the best rotation in baseball and even without Semien, we have one of the, if not the best, line ups in the AL. And outside of the White Sox and Rays we are probably in the most desirable situations in the AL, with a ton of money to spend and a GM who seems to be able to find talent, especially on the cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepelfrey View Post
    You’re probably right but as a fan of the “other team’’ in NY it’s to be expected. And I do give them credit. I just look at the Jays being in the drivers seat with 13 games to go and playing 2 last place teams for 10 of those 13, as being particularly telling. The Yankees going 6-3 against the teams they had to beat was impressive, no doubt but going 7-6 to finish the season when you’re playing the last place Orioles and Twins for 10 of them just doesn’t cut it. To me, that makes it look like the Jays handed it to them
    I cannot disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    Not quite, but thats fine. Ive pointed out that Atkins has proven he can find mlb talent on the cheap. Even without Ray, Berrios, Manoah, Ryu and Matz probably lines up as one of the best, if not the best rotation in baseball and even without Semien, we have one of the, if not the best, line ups in the AL. And outside of the White Sox and Rays we are probably in the most desirable situations in the AL, with a ton of money to spend and a GM who seems to be able to find talent, especially on the cheap
    K…
    I think we have vastly different opinions on what we can expect from Ryu, Matz + ?
    I’m not expecting much from them, although matz having a decent (non cy)year wouldn’t be a major surprise.

    If we have a ton of money to spend then this is a non issue because Atkins will just retain semien and Ray. Case closed. The team will be better from internal growth and we can all sleep through the offseason.

    I’m definitely describing a scenario where we have a fixed cap around 160 mil as history leads me to believe thats how much Rogers is willing to spend annually. Maybe they bump it up who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    K…
    I think we have vastly different opinions on what we can expect from Ryu, Matz + ?
    I’m not expecting much from them, although matz having a decent (non cy)year wouldn’t be a major surprise.

    If we have a ton of money to spend then this is a non issue because Atkins will just retain semien and Ray. Case closed. The team will be better from internal growth and we can all sleep through the offseason.

    I’m definitely describing a scenario where we have a fixed cap around 160 mil as history leads me to believe thats how much Rogers is willing to spend annually. Maybe they bump it up who knows.
    Matz had a really good second half this year. I'm not expecting him to have a Robbie Ray like year.

    While it seems they have money to spend, I wouldn't be upset if they don't get into a bidding war over Ray. There's a a few red flags and if the price gets too high then I'm all for putting that money into different areas. Semien, I'm completely on board for re-signing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    Matz had a really good second half this year. I'm not expecting him to have a Robbie Ray like year.

    While it seems they have money to spend, I wouldn't be upset if they don't get into a bidding war over Ray. There's a a few red flags and if the price gets too high then I'm all for putting that money into different areas. Semien, I'm completely on board for re-signing.



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    There will be no bidding war. He will resign here on a hometown discount. Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    I cannot disagree.
    It's a really warped way of putting it. Because they went 5-2 against those last place teams, lol.

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    Orders of business for y'all to be competitive next year for the 2022 Season

    - Re sign Ray and Semien
    - Get rid of Ryu this off season and replace him with another ace type pitcher

    - Also sign another pitcher too on top of it to strengthen rotation

    - Sign another quality bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_noodles View Post
    It's a really warped way of putting it. Because they went 5-2 against those last place teams, lol.
    Sept 17-19 - Jays take 2 of 3 from Twins
    Sept 20-22 - Rays take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Sept 23-26 - split series with Twins
    Sept 28-30 - Yankees take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Oct 1-3 - Jays sweep O's

    4-3 against the Twins hurt.

    I mean you can point blame to the Twins series', not winning the Yankees series, or any game during the season that the bullpen blew it. Our fate was in our hand the last two weeks of the season, just was a bad time for the bats to go quiet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by statquo View Post
    Sept 17-19 - Jays take 2 of 3 from Twins
    Sept 20-22 - Rays take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Sept 23-26 - split series with Twins
    Sept 28-30 - Yankees take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Oct 1-3 - Jays sweep O's

    4-3 against the Twins hurt.

    I mean you can point blame to the Twins series', not winning the Yankees series, or any game during the season that the bullpen blew it. Our fate was in our hand the last two weeks of the season, just was a bad time for the bats to go quiet.
    Right, but I just disagree with the spin being put on it that we went 7-6 vs last place teams down the stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_noodles View Post
    There will be no bidding war. He will resign here on a hometown discount. Book it.
    Really? I expect the opposite. He's gonnna cash on given this will be his 1 last big contract. He'll be 37 by his next FA given he will easily get 6-7 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by statquo View Post
    Sept 17-19 - Jays take 2 of 3 from Twins
    Sept 20-22 - Rays take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Sept 23-26 - split series with Twins
    Sept 28-30 - Yankees take 2 of 3 from Jays
    Oct 1-3 - Jays sweep O's

    4-3 against the Twins hurt.

    I mean you can point blame to the Twins series', not winning the Yankees series, or any game during the season that the bullpen blew it. Our fate was in our hand the last two weeks of the season, just was a bad time for the bats to go quiet.
    If y'all hadn't lost the 2 games in that 4 game set and y'all had swept the Twins, y'all would have faced the Red Sox in the Wild Card game and y'all probably would have hosted that game in Toronto at the Rogers Centre and who knows what would have happened there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    If y'all hadn't lost the 2 games in that 4 game set and y'all had swept the Twins, y'all would have faced the Red Sox in the Wild Card game and y'all probably would have hosted that game in Toronto at the Rogers Centre and who knows what would have happened there
    You must be a troll/second account for somebody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LechWalesa View Post
    You must be a troll/second account for somebody.
    He’s all over this website in every forum. Might be getting paid to liven things up in here (I hope lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ View Post
    Really? I expect the opposite. He's gonnna cash on given this will be his 1 last big contract. He'll be 37 by his next FA given he will easily get 6-7 years.
    I think he wants to be here as long as the offer is reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_noodles View Post
    I think he wants to be here as long as the offer is reasonable.
    I suppose. Though I definitely expect someone to overpay so may be hard to keep him.

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