2021 Blue Jays Regular Season/Game Thread

**mike_noodles** · 10-04-2021, 10:48 AM

Marty York is such a turd. He is saying that Jays fans were mislead by management and the homer media and even said the team is not fun. Yeah, the homer media brought them to within 1 game of the playoffs, lol. Somebody is butt hurt.

**ChongInc.** · 10-04-2021, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by mikepelfrey

once again going into the final 13 games they led the wild card. and and were playing 10 against 2 last place teams. they held the hammer, unfortunately they just werent up to the challenge. is it disappointing of course it is but its not like they deserved better. They just didnt earn better than where they ended up

You aren’t giving enough credit to the run the Yankees have gone on.

**ChongInc.** · 10-04-2021, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by pebloemer

Great season of entertainment. Sad to see it over. This off-season is very important... I can't wait to see what they decide to do.

Yeah this is it. This is the offseason right here. All in.

**statquo** · 10-04-2021, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by ChongInc.

2nd last in the division…

Best 4th place team in the league history?

**Kenny Powders** · 10-04-2021, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by statquo

Best 4th place team in the league history?

I don't really pay much attention to what place they finished in. They were a top 4 AL team. A ****** bullpen in the first half, some questionable managerial decisions and having three home parks contributed to this team not making the playoffs. They have an excellent, young controllable core that they should be a le to build on.

These guys have proven they can locate professional talent whether it be in the minor or major league. I'm fully confident -- as I have been for some time-- that they'll keep this ship heading in the right direction

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**mike_noodles** · 10-04-2021, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

I don't really pay much attention to what place they finished in. They were a top 4 AL team. A ****** bullpen in the first half, some questionable managerial decisions and having three home parks contributed to this team not making the playoffs. They have an excellent, young controllable core that they should be a le to build on.

These guys have proven they can locate professional talent whether it be in the minor or major league. I'm fully confident -- as I have been for some time-- that they'll keep this ship heading in the right direction

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I read that they were 25-11 in Toronto this year.

**Raps18-19 Champ** · 10-04-2021, 02:46 PM

Yea wonder how well we coulda done playing at Rogers Centre tbe whole time.

We definitely had more things go right than wrong but not being able to play inToronto couldve tipped the balance.

**statquo** · 10-04-2021, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

I don't really pay much attention to what place they finished in. They were a top 4 AL team. A ****** bullpen in the first half, some questionable managerial decisions and having three home parks contributed to this team not making the playoffs. They have an excellent, young controllable core that they should be a le to build on.

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Ya I don't disagree with anything you're saying.

**1hardcore** · 10-05-2021, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

I don't really pay much attention to what place they finished in. They were a top 4 AL team. A ****** bullpen in the first half, some questionable managerial decisions and having three home parks contributed to this team not making the playoffs. They have an excellent, young controllable core that they should be a le to build on.

These guys have proven they can locate professional talent whether it be in the minor or major league. I'm fully confident -- as I have been for some time-- that they'll keep this ship heading in the right direction

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I've said it before. This team is better than the 2015 team!

**Kenny Powders** · 10-05-2021, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by 1hardcore

I've said it before. This team is better than the 2015 team!

I believe so too and much better set up going forward

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**Kenny Powders** · 10-05-2021, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by mike_noodles

I read that they were 25-11 in Toronto this year.

Yeah I seen that too

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**ChongInc.** · 10-05-2021, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

I don't really pay much attention to what place they finished in. They were a top 4 AL team. A ****** bullpen in the first half, some questionable managerial decisions and having three home parks contributed to this team not making the playoffs. They have an excellent, young controllable core that they should be a le to build on.

These guys have proven they can locate professional talent whether it be in the minor or major league. I'm fully confident -- as I have been for some time-- that they'll keep this ship heading in the right direction

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I really want to believe, but it will be tough to roll out a better team than this one next year. And even harder the following year and so on. Atkins was able to spend his way close to the playoffs (Riccardi?), he has a nice young core so he will have a couple more attempts at it, but he will need to repeat finding an MVP positional player and Cy young winner at a major discount to keep the momentum going through the expensive core years.

A way out of this is promoting another manoah or having groshans or Moreno hit like MVP’s… but I’m not betting on that.

**Kenny Powders** · 10-05-2021, 11:23 AM

Sure, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to see that Atkins has been able to get great production out of guys who didn't cost that much. He signed both Ray and Semien for a combined 24M and they produced closed to 14 WAR. He also got players like Hernandez and Espinal for pennies on the dollar. I trust these guys to be able to acquire talent to fill the holes.

As for the young players getting expensive, that's what you want, that means you are drafting good players and if some become to expensive then you trade them. It's not a static situation

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**ChongInc.** · 10-05-2021, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kenny Powders

Sure, that's one way to look at it. Another way is to see that Atkins has been able to get great production out of guys who didn't cost that much. He signed both Ray and Semien for a combined 24M and they produced closed to 14 WAR. He also got players like Hernandez and Espinal for pennies on the dollar. I trust these guys to be able to acquire talent to fill the holes.

As for the young players getting expensive, that's what you want, that means you are drafting good players and if some become to expensive then you trade them. It's not a static situation

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Yeah I literally acknowledged every point in your post in the one you quoted.

My question is “is it repeatable”? Because it has to be if we are going to roll out another team as strong as this years.
It might be. I don’t know but I look forward to finding out. I’m just stating what needs to happen in order for us to roll out a better team than last seasons, without paying Ray and semien.

**mikepelfrey** · 10-05-2021, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by ChongInc.

You aren’t giving enough credit to the run the Yankees have gone on.

You’re probably right but as a fan of the “other team’’ in NY it’s to be expected. And I do give them credit. I just look at the Jays being in the drivers seat with 13 games to go and playing 2 last place teams for 10 of those 13, as being particularly telling. The Yankees going 6-3 against the teams they had to beat was impressive, no doubt but going 7-6 to finish the season when you’re playing the last place Orioles and Twins for 10 of them just doesn’t cut it. To me, that makes it look like the Jays handed it to them

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