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  1. #1
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    Diagnose the Boston Celtics

    They have the 2nd best coach in the league (behind Pop) in Brad Stevens, and the best executive in the league in Danny ‘the man!’ Ainge.


    Why are they struggling so much this season?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVar Ball View Post
    They have the 2nd best coach in the league (behind Pop) in Brad Stevens, and the best executive in the league in Danny ‘the man!’ Ainge.


    Why are they struggling so much this season?!
    Stevens isn’t the “2nd best” HC

    Danny, though good, is clearly not the best executive.

    1. Stevens has not been a good coach in pressure situations
    2. Tatum has been inconsistent this year. Not sure if that’s the aftermath of COVID, indecision, lack of confidence
    3. This team lacks a bench in the worst way
    4. This team lacks shooters in the worst way
    5. This team lacks a legitimate big in the worst way
    6. Kemba hasn’t fit/been injured

    I don’t know that Stevens is the right guy moving forward. He’s been excellent coaching up bad to average teams. But the past 3 years when this team needed to make a jump, they’ve done nothing but underperform in key games/situations. A lot of that blame needs to fall on Stevens shoulders. And to an extent Ainges for not putting a better team around Tatum/Brown. He should have known Kyrie would leave and got something for him. He should have got something for Hayward. He missed on just about all of his FA signings this past offseason. And hasn’t drafted well in the first round outside of the top 5

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    Not enough shooters, need a 2-way big. Stevens needs balls, Ainge needs a reality check.

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    one of the biggest issues is that they lost kyrie, Horford, and Hayward and basically only got Kemba back. its hard to replace that kind of talent. then you add in their injuries this year, the garbage defense and the fact that they just like the midrange too much its just all adds up. don't kid yourself though they have two all stars under 25 at the hardest position to get them. it would be hard for them to not be much better pretty fast.

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    They let winning vets leave for rookies and young players. Refused to trade their picks and came to realize fast that those chips are more valuable before you actually draft the pick most of the time.

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    Smart being out and being their best PG is playing into it.

    Kemba is an on ball guy.
    Brown is an on ball guy.
    Tatum is an on ball guy.
    Fournier is an on ball guy.
    Thompson is JAG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVar Ball View Post
    They have the 2nd best coach in the league (behind Pop) in Brad Stevens, and the best executive in the league in Danny ‘the man!’ Ainge.
    Why are they struggling so much this season?!
    It's debatable where Stevens is on the coach rankings compared to guys like Nurse and Spoelstra. As far as the team, the Celtics basically whiffed in their pursuit of a point guard and center.
    Kemba has had too many injuries and looks to be not worth his contract. Boston made a mistake not trading Hayward for Turner, a defensive ace who would have fit great with their timeline. Thompson was a waste of cap space.
    At this point, I feel like the Celtics should explore a swap of Walker to Houston for Wall. Tillman's cheap, so maybe he'll swap Wall straight up for Walker to save the $18 million difference on the last two years of their contracts.
    Despite his limitations, Wall is a better floor general and defender for Stevens' switching schemes. There's the torn Achilles, but Wall's been healthier this season than Walker, who it doesn't seem is going to get past this arthritis.
    I'm sure Westbrook will eventually be available to...

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    Just did that Wall/Walker swap in the trade machine straight up. Houston gets a -15 in projected wins and Boston gets a -1, lol.

    Bring it on.

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    should of kept desmond bane

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    They let winning vets leave for rookies and young players. Refused to trade their picks and came to realize fast that those chips are more valuable before you actually draft the pick most of the time.
    This is a big part of it, Boston is a cautionary tale of being too conservative at the GM level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    This is a big part of it, Boston is a cautionary tale of being too conservative at the GM level.
    I 100% agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaVar Ball View Post
    They have the 2nd best coach in the league (behind Pop) in Brad Stevens, and the best executive in the league in Danny ‘the man!’ Ainge.


    Why are they struggling so much this season?!
    There's a lot of assumption in your statement as others have pointed out.
    Second best coach is a reach though Stevens is a great coach.
    Ainge on the other hand I feel has been living off his fleecing of Brooklyn years ago. Dude seems to be more interested in winning the off season than the actual season.

    There are only so many Billy Kings and Colangelos left in NBA management.

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    taking Olynyk over Giannis also didn't help.

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    The reality for them is that they have no chance in hell of getting out of the second round. If they're not careful, they won't get out of the first round either.

    It appears that their entire success hinges on Kemba playing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiG View Post
    taking Olynyk over Giannis also didn't help.
    To be fair to them, a lot of teams made that mistake.

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