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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Well yeah the tin foil hats speak for them selves lol
    Tin foil buttplugs. Canada is about to adminster them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    I keep seeing that narrative thrown around, and half of it's wrong. Jarret Allen had literally nothing to do with Victor Oladipo in that part of the Harden trade. Allen went to Cleveland for Exum, Kurucs and a 2022 1st rounder from Milwaukee. In terms of LeVert, yes, I agree that I'd much rather have had him in the deal than Dipo. It seemed like a bad move at the time, and it seems much worse in hindsight.

    But for what it's worth, Houston got out while they still could, they got another first round swap out of it next year that could be pretty valuable (the difference between Brooklyn and Miami right now is 11 spots), and the deal has not made Miami any better. In fact, Miami has been worse since the Oladipo trade, and I'm not sure he's going to play another game in a Heat jersey.

    Also, you could make the argument that by taking on no decent players in the Harden trade, it helped the tank. Does adding LeVert make them a .500 basketball team? Definitely not, but it might have made them good enough to not be in the bottom 3-4. For the Rockets, the priority has to be keeping their first round pick this season, which only happens if it's a top 4 selection. If they end up tanking, though, and not keeping that first round pick? It's going to be a very rough next couple of seasons.
    IDK much about the pick swaps but I'd rather have Jarret Allen tbh. You can stealth tank with better players, even by that logic, as sad as it is to say, fortune would have smiled on them since Lavert had to miss time anyways and hasn't been looking like his old self just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Yeah, the asset is lost and the same reason why I wasn't so high on Miami acquiring Dipo was the same reason I scratched my head at what Houston did to go out of their way to avoid getting the best players in this 3 team trade.
    Seems full tank was the motivation. As I've mentioned before though, drafting 3 first round picks in one draft is difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    IDK much about the pick swaps but I'd rather have Jarret Allen tbh. You can stealth tank with better players, even by that logic, as sad as it is to say, fortune would have smiled on them since Lavert had to miss time anyways and hasn't been looking like his old self just yet.
    They didn't get a pick swap for Allen, though. They got Milwaukee's first next year, Exum and Kurucs. Also, Allen was expiring after this season. Just like with Dipo, re-signing him was always going to be a challenge.


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    He's going to have season ending surgery on his quad.

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    What a fall from stardom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    What a fall from stardom.


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    Yup, same quad he had surgery on in January 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Tin foil buttplugs. Canada is about to adminster them
    By kind to thy Neighbor. Hereís a fun fact Canada has beat the United States in two separate wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    What a fall from stardom.


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    I was telling Heat fans that Oladipo doesnít look like the same player. In all honesty his rise to stardom was short lived too. He really just had the time in OKC where he blossomed in to a star and he wasnít there all that long

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    Good thing for the heat is that Oladipo is expiring they can just let him walk and spend the money else where which is what they should do IMO. Victor looks like heís going to be injury prone and likely not worth the money heíll be commanding as a free agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Good thing for the heat is that Oladipo is expiring they can just let him walk and spend the money else where which is what they should do IMO. Victor looks like heís going to be injury prone and likely not worth the money heíll be commanding as a free agent
    I truly believe he's going to have to take a team friendly deal. But even if he's willing, Pat made certain promises to Jimmy, and Miami can't wait around on the chance he gets healthy. Swinging for the trade probably bought some good will from Jimmy for one more season.

    But I think Miami moves on to other targets now. Lowry, etc.

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    For the record, I feel horrible for Oladipo. He seems like a good guy, and he plays hard. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel pretty good about this trade with Miami right about now. I said at the time that Heat fans ought to temper their expectations and he wasn't likely going to make them a better basketball team this season. I'm very rarely right, but I was this time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    For the record, I feel horrible for Oladipo. He seems like a good guy, and he plays hard. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel pretty good about this trade with Miami right about now. I said at the time that Heat fans ought to temper their expectations and he wasn't likely going to make them a better basketball team this season. I'm very rarely right, but I was this time.

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    Poor Dipo. Glad I was able to watch his 2018 All NBA season with us as it happened. It's a shame injuries caused it to essentially be a one hit wonder

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    Quote Originally Posted by beasted86 View Post
    I truly believe he's going to have to take a team friendly deal. But even if he's willing, Pat made certain promises to Jimmy, and Miami can't wait around on the chance he gets healthy. Swinging for the trade probably bought some good will from Jimmy for one more season.

    But I think Miami moves on to other targets now. Lowry, etc.
    I think Lowry is their guy too. He and Butler are very close. KL is Butlers daughters god father.

    But aside from the sentimental stuff Lowry would be a really good fit in Miami. He brings the same intensity that Jimmy does. He has a bulldog mentality, heís tough, and the guy just knows how to win games and is an incredible leader for young players.

    I donít know what Miamiís plans are for Dragic but Lowry also has experience playing with Dragic back in Houston. Since then both players have evolved and can player either 1 or 2 and even have the ability to play off the ball if need be.

    Even though Lowry is 35 he fits Butler window, his game doesnít rely much on athletic ability and he is still playing at a high level. Iíd love for Lowry to stay in Toronto, but realistically at his age he wants to compete and Toronto canít afford him that as theyíre setting up for a retool. I think Lowry will consider a few teams but the more I think about it the more it seems Miami is the perfect fit for him and for them as well.

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