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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Unintended consequences. All people have to do is act like they were threatened and they get away with shooting people. That's how it's been applied.
    Okay, that's what I figured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Well now it's officially time to rename this thread. We have a guilty plea from one of the founders of the Oath Keepers.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/lifet...jan-6-obstruct
    Gee, and I thought it was a bunch of Lefties. Let's consider a moment...

    you know I may be one among some of the stupidest and most backwards people on the planet. Think that is possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    I'm sure they probably all stank, but that's more of a natural thing. This guy brought artificial incel spray.
    Artificial incel spray??


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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Way cooler group name then proud boys
    True. “Proud boys” is embarrassing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
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    They should change it to Proud Boiz.

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    Can't wait for the trials to begin. Hopefully by that time Trump will be included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    Can't wait for the trials to begin. Hopefully by that time Trump will be included.
    Don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue6 View Post
    Can't wait for the trials to begin. Hopefully by that time Trump will be included.
    He won’t be. He already got his day in court during the impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Or it could just be who he shoots first.

    And lol at you comparing an airport to a school.

    You are talking out of your *** again. How many schools in Canada require you to go through a metal detector or go through a search before entering? How many have armed guards? Because we have them in the USA and they are quite disturbing. Come visit some time.
    you're missing the point. after 9/11 things changed in airports. quite disturbing to go through all the security at airports eh, but there has been a reason for it. school shootings will not stop as long as any gun is an option and the gun is not going anywhere. what do you do, change the way schools are or continue to wait for the police to arrive to a school shooting with their gun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    you're missing the point. after 9/11 things changed in airports. quite disturbing to go through all the security at airports eh, but there has been a reason for it. school shootings will not stop as long as any gun is an option and the gun is not going anywhere. what do you do, change the way schools are or continue to wait for the police to arrive to a school shooting with their gun.
    You use that huge amount of money to improve society in other ways. The vast majority of mass shootings don't happen at schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    You use that huge amount of money to improve society in other ways. The vast majority of mass shootings don't happen at schools.
    what do you do to confront a shooter in a school that we all know will continue to happen?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    what do you do to confront a shooter in a school that we all know will continue to happen?
    The procedures already in place.

    You are talking about spending billions and billions to save MAYBE 10 lives a year, and that investment doesn't take anything anywhere in society. It doesn't progress ANYTHING, it is a fundamentally static change that will, really, save fewer than 10 lives a year. If we gave the same money to homelessness it would save thousands and thousands of lives, and that's a pretty easy one to make that big a difference for far less money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    The procedures already in place.

    You are talking about spending billions and billions to save MAYBE 10 lives a year, and that investment doesn't take anything anywhere in society. It doesn't progress ANYTHING, it is a fundamentally static change that will, really, save fewer than 10 lives a year. If we gave the same money to homelessness it would save thousands and thousands of lives, and that's a pretty easy one to make that big a difference for far less money.
    where did you come up with this price?

    how many schools in America already have a resource officer? why would it be this incredible cost to arm them/train them.

    you could have 2 to 3 armed officers in these big schools, no reason for the cost to be into the billions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    where did you come up with this price?

    how many schools in America already have a resource officer? why would it be this incredible cost to arm them/train them.

    you could have 2 to 3 armed officers in these big schools, no reason for the cost to be into the billions.
    3 armed officers with an average cost per officer of $150k a year (which is low).

    90k schools k-12
    7k schools +12

    97000 * 150000 * 150000 = $43.65B per year

    If we then add public pre-k and public daycare that number skyrockets.

    There is also the issue of shift overlap, overtime or additional officers for school events, administrative load, and on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    3 armed officers with an average cost per officer of $150k a year (which is low).

    90k schools k-12
    7k schools +12

    97000 * 150000 * 150000 = $43.65B per year

    If we then add public pre-k and public daycare that number skyrockets.

    There is also the issue of shift overlap, overtime or additional officers for school events, administrative load, and on and on.

    has it changed since 2012?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business...school/266579/
    It wouldn't be that expensive. Here's some simple math. The median salary for police officers is $55,010 and there are about 99,000 public schools in the country -- and of those, about a third already have armed guards. Putting police in the remaining schools works out to an annual cost of about $3.6 billion, which is really more like $4 billion or so when you factor in benefits as well. That's not even a rounding error when it comes to the federal budget. It's even smaller than the foreign aid budget -- a point LaPierre demagogued -- despite foreign aid making up less than 1 percent of overall spending.

    even if you disagree with this method, how do you suggest America confront school shootings?


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