Do you think the days of guys coming to the Patriots are long gone?

**BSF101** · 03-02-2021, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by QB_Eagles

Go look at the 2020 Chiefs free agency signings and tell me who of them signed on the cheap to go chasing for a ring.

Players go where they are paid the most money except for very rare exceptions.

That's my point KC has good players hence why guys want to play there compared to teams who don't.
If Jacksonville turns things around and ends up becoming the next up and coming team don't be surprised if FAs sign there.

**QB_Eagles** · 03-02-2021, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by BSF101

That's my point KC has good players hence why guys want to play there compared to teams who don't.
If Jacksonville turns things around and ends up becoming the next up and coming team don't be surprised if FAs sign there.

But who are those "good players" in the Chiefs 2020 free agent class?

**koldjerky** · 03-02-2021, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by BSF101

What I'm saying is If guys didn't care about Super Bowl wins bad teams would be on the top.
To me I just believe winning a SB is more important to some guys over money. Sure you can offer a player millions
to play for a bad team but if they keep questioning themselves why I'm I on this bad team who would wanna stay?
I would rather take less money and win super bowls then take a huge contract and not win any Super Bowls.

So the Patriots are a terribly run organization?

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**Midnightbottle** · 03-03-2021, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by BSF101

People tend to forget before Brady and Belichick this team went decades of being bad.

They were in the super bowl in 96 you moron

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**hugepatsfan** · 03-03-2021, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by manbearchef

What makes this even funnier is they were ****ing 7-9 and barely lost 3 games to playoff teams. Imagine the Pats fans tears if they were a legit bottom feeder.

Dude don’t get me started. It’s so ****ing whiny. People don’t even know what it’s like to truly suck. And if we didn’t go 4-12 with that roster and 25% of the cap either dead money or unspent, not sure we will actually suck as long as BB is here. But that won’t stop fans from crying like they belong in diapers.

**hugepatsfan** · 03-03-2021, 01:45 AM

Outside of some fans over the top whining, I do think there’s some bad mojo that BB will have to deal with in FA. There’s definitely a reputation that this is a place you don’t want to be, fair or unfair, exaggerated or not.

Over the years, players who have signed here have actually pointed to BB as a decent “recruiter”. He doesn’t seem like it, but it’s kind of like Nick Saban in a sense. Guys have talked about how he kind of just keeps it real with them. Most guys who come through here say he’s not line people perceive.

I think the big hope is just that BB’s resume gets people to at least have a conversation with him. You’d hope that even if a guy is inclined not to sign here from what he’s heard he’ll at least have a conversation. Not saying guys would take less, but maybe BB gets a chance to quell some of the sensationalism that he’s the devil and have just a normal conversation with guys.

**Bosston** · 03-03-2021, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by BSF101

I had asked to be banned from there years ago don’t ask me why I honestly forget why I asked.

I'm pretty sure you asked to be banned because you complained about the Patriots when they were on their 20 year run...

One year the group made a wager that if the Pats win you're gone, you took it... complained the whole year... Pats won.

You complained when they were on top, now maybe you'll have a reason to complain... or not... I don't know, you're weird.

**Nunuu** · 03-03-2021, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by hugepatsfan

Dude don’t get me started. It’s so ****ing whiny. People don’t even know what it’s like to truly suck. And if we didn’t go 4-12 with that roster and 25% of the cap either dead money or unspent, not sure we will actually suck as long as BB is here. But that won’t stop fans from crying like they belong in diapers.

Its like they don't understand the roster was a 4-12 or worse roster in talent level. The great coaching had them competitive for most of the year.

**Mamba42** · 03-03-2021, 04:15 PM

Well here we go! https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/k...gs-per-report/

**koldjerky** · 03-03-2021, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Mamba42

Well here we go! https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/k...gs-per-report/

They mistitled it. Should say “Rudolph interested in re-signing with the Vikings or playing for the CFL over signing with the Patriots.”

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**BSF101** · 03-03-2021, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Midnightbottle

They were in the super bowl in 96 you moron

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And they lost to a better Greenbay team so what's your point? They also lost to a better Giants team twice, and a better Eagles team once.

**rc33** · 03-03-2021, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mamba42

Well here we go! https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/k...gs-per-report/

Patriots have had the worst TE room in the NFL for two years running; quite possibly the worst TE room in NFL history. In 2020 they used two 3rd round picks on TE's who combined for like 6 catches and spent most of the season as healthy scratches. Giuliani, that reindeer; any Rudolph is bound to help that mess.

**BSF101** · 03-03-2021, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bosston

I'm pretty sure you asked to be banned because you complained about the Patriots when they were on their 20 year run...

One year the group made a wager that if the Pats win you're gone, you took it... complained the whole year... Pats won.

You complained when they were on top, now maybe you'll have a reason to complain... or not... I don't know, you're weird.

No, I probably asked to be banned because people like you kept acting like the team could do no wrong.
Still don't know why some are too stubborn to admit when their team does something bad or stupid. Again the only reason why guys took less money to play for NE was to chase a ring the team can offer anyone huge contracts but if the pieces are not there why would they? Guys get paid to win not lose any team with money can off big contracts but not every team can win when it matters.

**BSF101** · 03-03-2021, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by koldjerky

So the Patriots are a terribly run organization?

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No far from it but when you take out good players most others don't wanna play for that team.
I knew the day would come when Brady and Belichick leave and whoever takes over will probably never
duplicate the same success and I'm OK with that just as long as they don't end up going 2-14 every yr.

**BSF101** · 03-03-2021, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mamba42

Well here we go! https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/k...gs-per-report/

Until they release him lol. Says interested doesn't mean they will sign him I'm interested in a lot of things doesn't mean I'm gonna go out and get em.

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