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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    You mean like Kaepernick? Do you agree that Trump and everyone demanding he be fired or demanding he Stand were wrong and cancel culture?
    People using their employers platform as a means to protest for any cause are subject to the ridicule of others. My main concern is whether the player can help the team or not and if the players antics are worth it in accordance with his ability.

    Like I said, I think lebron James views on politics are dead wrong, but Iíd take him on the Sixers any day. I waited my whole life for the Eagles to win the super bowl. When I was a kid, Iíd day dream about the parade and then visiting the White House as champions. But when they won the super bowl, they decided not to go because of political purposes. Obviously I totally disagree with this. But I still cheered them on the following year and will every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo View Post
    Your last 3 words are putting it kindly.
    ....says the politics forum jester that thinks Italians are people of color and COVID-19 is the flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    Irony is this post. Most here won't/can't see it. More for the lurkers than anything.

    You can't show it was a settlement because of "cancel culture" either.

    Oh well. I still have hope for folks like you.
    Most people see how transparent your thinly veiled routine is.

    Why were they settling a collusion grievance for then, genius? Did they do that because the NFL just felt like giving away millions of dollars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    No **** the cages were also there during the Obama administration. That's been discussed on this board countless times over the last few years or so. The point is that maybe those kids shouldn't be in cages regardless of who started them, and only a disingenuous hack like yourself would say that message is on equal footing with the nonsense Carano had been spouting for an entire year.

    So yes, you're either latching on to nonsensical right wing talking points or your brain isn't operating properly.

    ....and if your second to last sentence is referring to the meme Pascal shared, you're even more full of **** than I initially realized, as there is no mention of Trump or his supporters.
    Perhaps thereís a difference between sitting in a cage and getting a coke and being cooked though?

    Also, it appears Carano wasnít the only multiple tweet offender...

    Pascale posted a meme comparing trump supporters with Nazis and confederates abs referring to all of them as losers. So why does he still have a job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    People using their employers platform as a means to protest for any cause are subject to the ridicule of others. My main concern is whether the player can help the team or not and if the players antics are worth it in accordance with his ability.

    Like I said, I think lebron James views on politics are dead wrong, but Iíd take him on the Sixers any day. I waited my whole life for the Eagles to win the super bowl. When I was a kid, Iíd day dream about the parade and then visiting the White House as champions. But when they won the super bowl, they decided not to go because of political purposes. Obviously I totally disagree with this. But I still cheered them on the following year and will every year.
    A predictable non-answer. For the last time, his employer was OK with it. It wasnít the 49ers who demanded he stop kneeling. It was Trump and his followers. They demanded he be fired for his actions.

    That is cancel culture. You say you dislike cancel culture, but you donít. You are all about cancel culture in the case of Kaepernick. Ewing is right: youíre a hypocrite on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Perhaps thereís a difference between sitting in a cage and getting a coke and being cooked though?

    Also, it appears Carano wasnít the only multiple tweet offender...

    Pascale posted a meme comparing trump supporters with Nazis and confederates abs referring to all of them as losers. So why does he still have a job?
    For the same reason you wonít cancel LeBron James but are fine with it for Kaepernick. Thatís the problem with selectively being OK with cancellation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Most people see how transparent your thinly veiled routine is.

    Why were they settling a collusion grievance for then, genius? Did they do that because the NFL just felt like giving away millions of dollars?
    Because sometimes, now sit down for this one, settling a lawsuit is better than porlonged bad publicity and thus cheaper in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    Because sometimes, now sit down for this one, settling a lawsuit is better than porlonged bad publicity and thus cheaper in the end.
    No **** but it can also be an admission of guilt without said lengthy proceeding. Considering no one has made Kaepernick an offer since he knelt, it tends to give credence to that point.

    I'm still waiting for you to show me all these contracts offered to Kaepernick btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    No **** but it can also be an admission of guilt without said lengthy proceeding. Considering no one has made Kaepernick an offer since he knelt, it tends to give credence to that point.

    I'm still waiting for you to show me all these contracts offered to Kaepernick btw.
    1) You are right it can be an admission of guilt. I am not saying it can't or isn't. But you are saying it is. Do you see how you are definitive on something you do not have the information to make that call upon?
    2) As discussed earlier that is not known. We only have his agent saying that which I already explained is something the agency had to do for their client and themselves concerning future earnings.

    Finally, last I checked I am not a GM of an NFL team....are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    1) You are right it can be an admission of guilt. I am not saying it can't or isn't. But you are saying it is. Do you see how you are definitive on something you do not have the information to make that call upon?
    2) As discussed earlier that is not known. We only have his agent saying that which I already explained is something the agency had to do for their client and themselves concerning future earnings.

    Finally, last I checked I am not a GM of an NFL team....are you?
    Look, if you want dont want to put two and two together, that's on you. Black man takes a controversial political stance that teams believe will hurt business if they sign him and uncoincidentally, you haven't seen him in the league since. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    A predictable non-answer. For the last time, his employer was OK with it. It wasnít the 49ers who demanded he stop kneeling. It was Trump and his followers. They demanded he be fired for his actions.

    That is cancel culture. You say you dislike cancel culture, but you donít. You are all about cancel culture in the case of Kaepernick. Ewing is right: youíre a hypocrite on this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    For the same reason you wonít cancel LeBron James but are fine with it for Kaepernick. Thatís the problem with selectively being OK with cancellation.
    Two issues can coexist. Trump and conservatives can not agree with Kaep and his antics. The 49ers owner can be fine with it. The only person who has the power to cancel Kaep would be the 49ers owner and I suppose the other 31 owners for not signing him to a deal. But why would an nfl team not put winning above the desires of others? Makes no sense. If this is what happened, if Kaep was canceled, that is wrong. I donít believe he was canceled. I believe like many nfl players it was a combination of overvaluing his worth and abilities combined with his ability to be paid more money as an SJW. That seems more plausible to me.

    Iím bringing up lebron to show I can disagree with someone politically and still value them for their craft. Lebron has probably even done/said more than Kaep in the political spectrum. I almost always disagree with his politics. But itís exclusive from his ability to dominate on a basketball floor. Thatís the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives disagree with policies or someoneís politics. Liberals think conservatives are bad people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    I consider Kaep kneeling in protest (for any cause) a distraction. As I would consider a confederate flag a distraction.

    If any player protested, in any fashion, during a game, Iíd think it was wrong.
    Are you saying you see asking for racial equality is on par with white supremacy?

    Cuz that would explain a lot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    No I donít. Which side does it more though?
    Ah, so you DO see the kap situation as cancel culture!

    Then why have you been saying otherwise in so many posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Two issues can coexist. Trump and conservatives can not agree with Kaep and his antics. The 49ers owner can be fine with it. The only person who has the power to cancel Kaep would be the 49ers owner and I suppose the other 31 owners for not signing him to a deal. But why would an nfl team not put winning above the desires of others? Makes no sense. If this is what happened, if Kaep was canceled, that is wrong. I donít believe he was canceled. I believe like many nfl players it was a combination of overvaluing his worth and abilities combined with his ability to be paid more money as an SJW. That seems more plausible to me.

    Iím bringing up lebron to show I can disagree with someone politically and still value them for their craft. Lebron has probably even done/said more than Kaep in the political spectrum. I almost always disagree with his politics. But itís exclusive from his ability to dominate on a basketball floor. Thatís the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives disagree with policies or someoneís politics. Liberals think conservatives are bad people.
    Bolded: I believe you are grasping at whatever tenuous straw you can to justify your hypocrisy. That seems most plausible.

    And no, that is not the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives believe Liberals are bad people who literally want to destroy America. There is a vein on both sides that thinks the other is evil. That you donít believe your side is bad or guilty is further proof of your partisanship.

    I wonder how youíd feel if a conservative player started kneeling to protest socialism. My guess is youíd have the exact opposite reaction that you did for Kaepernick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Look, if you want dont want to put two and two together, that's on you. Black man takes a controversial political stance that teams believe will hurt business if they sign him and uncoincidentally, you haven't seen him in the league since. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck.
    If it its your narrative than it's all good. That's what this says. Sorry I can't go there and when I do go there on an issue I am wrong just like you are now on this one.
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