Bill Maher on cancel culture

[nastynice]

No. There’s a difference between firing someone for displaying their political opinion and firing someone because their antics are creating a distraction.

Wrong.

Like valade said, it's a weak attempt to explain your hypocrisy.

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[joeyc77]

No, that’s just you trying to find a reason to explain your hypocrisy.

Roseanne’s antics also created a distraction. And those antics did not help the studio make a TV show.

It’s the same logic.

Also, why do you think no other studio hired her for a TV show after she was fired?

Roseanne stating her opinion on her own Twitter shouldn’t make a show more difficult. Again, Kaeps opinion is irrelevant. If Roseanne walked around the studio ranting about her views, than that is different and the studio had every right to fire her. There’s nothing to suggest that’s the case though.

I don’t know why she hasn’t been hired elsewhere. Do you?

[nastynice]

Because that’s relevant to cancel culture.

No it's not. If someone was cancelled due to backlash then they were cancelled due to backlash. Makes no difference what an owner quoted.

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[nastynice]

Roseanne stating her opinion on her own Twitter shouldn’t make a show more difficult. Again, Kaeps opinion is irrelevant. If Roseanne walked around the studio ranting about her views, than that is different and the studio had every right to fire her. There’s nothing to suggest that’s the case though.

I don’t know why she hasn’t been hired elsewhere. Do you?

She getting the Kaepernick treatment. Too much backlash to deal with.

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[valade16]

Roseanne stating her opinion on her own Twitter shouldn’t make a show more difficult. Again, Kaeps opinion is irrelevant. If Roseanne walked around the studio ranting about her views, than that is different and the studio had every right to fire her. There’s nothing to suggest that’s the case though.

I don’t know why she hasn’t been hired elsewhere. Do you?

You just said the media scrutiny on Kaepernick is why made it untenable. Well there was a tremendous amount of media scrutiny on Roseanne’s show after her comments.

It’s the same thing. Do you think a business should be able to fire someone if they adversely affect the profits of their business?

As for the Bolded: You have no idea? Man, I sometimes wonder what it’s like to be that naive.

[mngopher35]

How many times do I need to say this... if Kaep was not resigned for the sole purpose of his political beliefs or even his antics, that is wrong. We don’t know that to be the case though. We are speculating on Kaep.

Gina Carano was canceled for her tweets. It’s not like I’m mad at Disney because they didn’t make a new show involving her or not making her captain marvel.

We are almost always speculating but all the evidence I had been pointing that way from the start and you have been arguing against it/seemingly defending the cancel culture in this case. That is the part that was clear as day and everyone could see. It hit the levels of potus trying to cancel him and eventually vp left a game over this type of thing. It’s a very huge shining example of cancel culture from many many people.

It’s not about being mad at the company. I mean I think some are dumb for giving in and nfl settled after the fact in this case even but the issue is that extreme cancel culture from many over made up reasons to be offended.


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[joeyc77]

You just said the media scrutiny on Kaepernick is why made it untenable. Well there was a tremendous amount of media scrutiny on Roseanne’s show after her comments.

It’s the same thing. Do you think a business should be able to fire someone if they adversely affect the profits of their business?

As for the Bolded: You have no idea? Man, I sometimes wonder what it’s like to be that naive.

Was Roseanne running around the studio ranting about her politics making it uncomfortable for the other actors? If so, she is wrong. But if all she did was state her opinion on social media, the other actors have no justification to be uncomfortable.

The difference between these cases is with Kaep you are speculating him not being resigned is mainly caused by his protest. Here is an example of speculation...

In 2020, the Eagles drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson. As a fan, I can be upset at their failure to identify Jefferson as far better than Reagor because they had the opportunity to draft him. I can’t be equally irritated at the Eagles not trading up to draft Cee-dee lamb. I can only speculate on reasons why they didn’t. But I have no actual idea.

With Kaep, it’s the same. You can speculate all day long. We can have differences of opinion in said speculation but neither of us know for sure.

[joeyc77]

No it's not. If someone was cancelled due to backlash then they were cancelled due to backlash. Makes no difference what an owner quoted.

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Where is it stated anywhere that Kaep was canceled do to backlash?

[valade16]

Was Roseanne running around the studio ranting about her politics making it uncomfortable for the other actors? If so, she is wrong. But if all she did was state her opinion on social media, the other actors have no justification to be uncomfortable.

The difference between these cases is with Kaep you are speculating him not being resigned is mainly caused by his protest. Here is an example of speculation...

In 2020, the Eagles drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson. As a fan, I can be upset at their failure to identify Jefferson as far better than Reagor because they had the opportunity to draft him. I can’t be equally irritated at the Eagles not trading up to draft Cee-dee lamb. I can only speculate on reasons why they didn’t. But I have no actual idea.

With Kaep, it’s the same. You can speculate all day long. We can have differences of opinion in said speculation but neither of us know for sure.

But it is justification to make the studio upset. She is the star actress of the TV show. If her ranting and raving on a public social media account decreases the studio's profits, how is it not in their interest to terminate her?

As for your speculation, you seem to discount the degree of speculation required in situations. For example, it would require a lot of speculation to assume why the Philadelphia Eagles WR situation went down the way it did,

it takes very little speculation to determine the reason other studios haven't hired Roseanne is because of her offensive tweets. Mostly, that takes common sense.

[dbroncos78087]

Can someone provide me the legislation that Democrats passed to make Mr. Potato head genderless or censor Dr. Seuss?

Otherwise I’m not seeing the political aspect of this latest bull****.

[statquo]

Was Roseanne running around the studio ranting about her politics making it uncomfortable for the other actors? If so, she is wrong. But if all she did was state her opinion on social media, the other actors have no justification to be uncomfortable.

The difference between these cases is with Kaep you are speculating him not being resigned is mainly caused by his protest. Here is an example of speculation...

In 2020, the Eagles drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson. As a fan, I can be upset at their failure to identify Jefferson as far better than Reagor because they had the opportunity to draft him. I can’t be equally irritated at the Eagles not trading up to draft Cee-dee lamb. I can only speculate on reasons why they didn’t. But I have no actual idea.

With Kaep, it’s the same. You can speculate all day long. We can have differences of opinion in said speculation but neither of us know for sure.

Roseanne tweeted Valerie Jarrett was an offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes. How is that a political opinion? When has it ever been just an “opinion” to refer to black people as apes/monkeys?? The only reason it was even a story was because she was playing a Trump supporter on the show. Lol!

I mean you’re out here defending these people like they got cancelled for tweeting for low taxes and deregulation. They aren’t even opinions. Roseanne’s was a terrible joke. Do we need to resurrect Kathy Griffin who was swiftly cancelled after her terrible joke that everyone agreed was terrible?

[fingerbang]

Roseanne tweeted Valerie Jarrett was an offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes. How is that a political opinion? When has it ever been just an “opinion” to refer to black people as apes/monkeys?? The only reason it was even a story was because she was playing a Trump supporter on the show. Lol!

I mean you’re out here defending these people like they got cancelled for tweeting for low taxes and deregulation. They aren’t even opinions. Roseanne’s was a terrible joke. Do we need to resurrect Kathy Griffin who was swiftly cancelled after her terrible joke that everyone agreed was terrible?

Calling a black person an ape because they have black skin is racist.



That's funny. She has the same haircut and ****.

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Calling a black person an ape because they have black skin is racist.



That's funny. She has the same haircut and ****.

Roseanne is a funny lady. If she was openly liberal and pulled the national Anthem stunt today a bunch of right wing loud mouths would have her canceled. The thing that should outrage people is that the network continued making “The Connors” after they fired her. That’s her ****, they made millions of it, fired her, then continued to try to make bank off her creative creation

[joeyc77]

But it is justification to make the studio upset. She is the star actress of the TV show. If her ranting and raving on a public social media account decreases the studio's profits, how is it not in their interest to terminate her?

As for your speculation, you seem to discount the degree of speculation required in situations. For example, it would require a lot of speculation to assume why the Philadelphia Eagles WR situation went down the way it did,

it takes very little speculation to determine the reason other studios haven't hired Roseanne is because of her offensive tweets. Mostly, that takes common sense.

Rosanne tweeting her stupid thoughts is not justification to make the studio upset. She said nothing about the studio prior to her cancellation. It was her own stupid ideals.

It doesn’t take any speculation as to whether or not the Eagles should have drafted Jefferson. They messed up. It happens.

It’s pure speculation as to why other studios aren’t hiring Roseanne. Perhaps she doesn’t want to work any more. It’s not like she was doing a ton prior.

[joeyc77]

Roseanne tweeted Valerie Jarrett was an offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes. How is that a political opinion? When has it ever been just an “opinion” to refer to black people as apes/monkeys?? The only reason it was even a story was because she was playing a Trump supporter on the show. Lol!

I mean you’re out here defending these people like they got cancelled for tweeting for low taxes and deregulation. They aren’t even opinions. Roseanne’s was a terrible joke. Do we need to resurrect Kathy Griffin who was swiftly cancelled after her terrible joke that everyone agreed was terrible?

Kathy griffin was canceled? From what? I just looked at her IMDB. She hasn’t been working much but she hadn’t been working much it seems. Many people made stupid jokes about the president- Madonna for instance, was she canceled as well?