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  1. #421
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    Kyle Trask might fit that bill (pun intended)
    Iíll be honest, I donít even scout QBs. I donít consider myself qualified. The position is so nuanced in terms of the mental side of the game, isolating what the QB messed up vs someone else, judging whether a throw will translate vs NFL coverage, etc.

    For instance, Mac Jones seems to have the mental side down. But NFL defensive schemes are way more advanced. What Iíd want to do is find the instances where clearly he was confused by the other team. How did he handle that play? How did he adjust in the future for what he saw? And then as far as physically throwing the ball, Iíd want to really analyze the windows he threw into. Will NFL defenders close them? Does he throw with anticipation or does he wait for guys to get open and then throw? (The latter is a deathwish in the NFL IMO.)

    Itís just too complex a scouting job for me to even try, TBH. So I wonít comment on if we should trade up for someone in the ďtop 5Ē or if the Trask/Mond/Mills/Newman tier is legit after them. Iíll just keep it generic and say that ďif BB thinks he sees a viable starter he better go get him wherever that range is and he better be right about who is or isnít the guyĒ. Drafting a QB position Iím going to try to ďgradeĒ or share an opinion on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    then I think he can have the Pats pushing 10 wins annually (or whatever the 17 game equivalent is)
    10.625 wins

  3. #423
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    Quote Originally Posted by QQQ View Post
    If heís there at 12 Iím actually starting to think the eagles may take him depending on who else is on the board.
    I do see playing inside but being extremely dominant at Guard or even Center.


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  4. #424
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    Quote Originally Posted by QQQ View Post
    If heís there at 12 Iím actually starting to think the eagles may take him depending on who else is on the board.
    I hope not LOL. Give me the best receiver or corner on the board at 12.

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    Adam Schefter believes the 49ers will take Mac Jones at 3.

  6. #426
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    My mock draft and this is my personal opinion of which players go where

    1- Trevor Lawrence (QB) (Jaguars)
    2- Zach Wilson (QB) (Jets)
    3- Mac Jones (QB) (49ers)
    4- Kyle Pitts (TE) (Falcons)
    5- JaMarr Chase (WR) (Bengals)
    6- Jaylen Waddle (WR) (Dolphins)
    7- Penei Sewell (OT) (Lions)
    8- Rashawn Slater (OT) (Panthers)
    9- Trey Lance (QB) (Broncos)
    10- Patrick Surtain Jr (CB) (Cowboys)
    11- Kwity Paye (EDGE) (Giants)
    12- Jaycee Horn (CB) (Eagles)
    13- Micah Parsons (LB) (Chargers)
    14- Jaelan Philips (EDGE) (Vikings)
    15- Zaven Collins (LB) (Patriots)
    16- Greg Rousseau (EDGE) (Cardinals)
    17- Alijah Vera-Tucker (OL) (Raiders)
    18- Najee Harris (RB) (Dolphins)
    19- Greg Newsome (CB) (WFT)
    20- Christian Darrisaw (OT) (Bears)
    21- Caleb Farley (CB) (Colts)
    22- Azeez Ojulari (EDGE) (Titans)
    23- Teven Jenkins (OT) (Jets)
    24- Trevon Moehrig (S) (Steelers)
    25- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB) (Jaguars)
    26- Jayson Oweh (EDGE) (Browns)
    27- Asante Samuel Jr (CB) (Ravens)
    28- Joe Tryon (EDGE) (Saints)
    29- Landon Dickerson (C) (Packers)
    30- Kelvin Joseph (CB) (Bills)
    31- Elijah Moore (WR) (Chiefs)
    32- Jamin Davis (LB) (Buccaneers)

  7. #427
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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    I'm sure the Eagles would take Slater if available at 12.
    Agreed

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    Updated mock for NFL Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe1016 View Post
    I hope not LOL. Give me the best receiver or corner on the board at 12.
    Why not? The game of football is won and lost at the line of scrimmage. Jason kelce isnít playing forever. Brandon brooks tore his Achillesí tendon twice. Itís not a sexy pick but it could help just as much as a cb or WR

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    Draft officially starts at 4 with Atlanta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QQQ View Post
    Why not? The game of football is won and lost at the line of scrimmage. Jason kelce isnít playing forever. Brandon brooks tore his Achillesí tendon twice. Itís not a sexy pick but it could help just as much as a cb or WR
    I realized the Eagles have a history of drafting OLine and DLine. Build in the trenches. I just don't believe Slater or Darrisaw are BPA at 12. I don't hate the pick but I would be disappointed.

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    49ers GM and HC will attend Justin Field's 2nd Pro day on April 14.

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    This is an article from the Cowboys point of view but if youíre interested in seeing a comparison between Patrick Surtain and Jaycee Horn.

    https://twitter.com/dmn_cowboys/stat...507101185?s=21


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  13. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.B View Post
    I still think they draft Fields. Heís a hometown kid and they need to start preparing for life without Matt Ryan. Marketing wise it would be great to have your star franchise QB also be a local product.
    Well, its also just about their last chance to win now with Matt Ryan. The Saints will probably drop, Brady is probably only another year or two, the Panthers will probably be competitive but not great as they look for a franchise QB.

    On the other hand the Falcons shouldn't draft this high again any time soon, so like you say, they should grab a QB now... but... the QB they get a 4 this year might be as good as a QB they get at 20 or 30 any other year.



    Given how much improvement the Falcons showed without Quinn, I'd say take the BPA for OL or D or trade down for 2 picks.
    Dak: 17,634 @ 66.0%, 7.7 per att, 106+24 TD, 40 INT+34 FMB, 97.3 Rate
    Wentz: 16,811 @ 62.7%, 6.7 per att, 113+8 TD, 50 INT+58 FMB, 89.2 Rate

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    I'll eat a shoe if BB is still coaching in 5 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Sticking to traditions:

    IF Wentz is a Philadelphia Eagle in 2021, he will be the starter. If not, bye bye PSD, I'll leave.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
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    Or another mock that I've done purely off the top of my head or how I see things playing out in the next 3 weeks

    1- Trevor Lawrence (QB) (Jaguars)
    2- Zach Wilson (QB) (Jets)
    3- Mac Jones (QB) (49ers)
    4- (BLOCKBUSTER TRADE)- Justin Fields (QB; Patriots...my Patriots move all the way up to the #4 pick trading with the Atlanta Falcons...my Patriots trade up to get a QB to sit behind Cam Newton up in Foxboro...we take Fields at 4


    5- JaMarr Chase (WR) (Bengals)
    6- Penei Sewell (OT) (Dolphins)
    7- Kyle Pitts (TE) (Lions)
    8- Rashawn Slater (OT) (Panthers)
    9- Trey Lance (QB) (Broncos)
    10- Christian Darrisaw (OT) (Cowboys)
    11- Patrick Surtain Jr (CB) (Giants)
    12- Jaylen Waddle (WR) (Eagles)
    13- Jaycee Horn (CB) (Chargers)
    14- Kwity Paye (EDGE) (Vikings)
    15- DeVonta Smith (WR) (Falcons via trade w/Patriots; move down to 15; DeVonta somehow slips to the Falcons at 15)


    16- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB) (Cardinals)
    17- Trevon Moehrig (S) (Raiders)
    18- Najee Harris (RB) (Dolphins)
    19- Greg Rousseau (EDGE) (Washington)
    20- Greg Newsome (CB) (Bears)
    21- Jaelan Philips (EDGE) (Colts)
    22- Rondale Moore (WR) (Titans)
    23- Caleb Farley (CB) (Jets)
    24- Davis Mills (QB) (Steelers)
    25- Kadarius Toney (WR) (Jaguars)
    26- Jayson Oweh (EDGE) (Browns)
    27- Asante Samuel Jr (CB) (Ravens)
    28- Zaven Collins (LB) (Saints)
    29- Nick Bolton (LB) (Packers)
    30- Landon Dickerson (C) (Bills)
    31- Terrace Marshall Jr (WR) (Chiefs)
    32- Christian Barmore (DL) (Buccaneers)
    Last edited by Tg11; 04-08-2021 at 04:41 PM.

  15. #435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Or another mock that I've done purely off the top of my head or how I see things playing out in the next 3 weeks

    1- Trevor Lawrence (QB) (Jaguars)
    2- Zach Wilson (QB) (Jets)
    3- Mac Jones (QB) (49ers)
    4- (BLOCKBUSTER TRADE)- Justin Fields (QB; Patriots...my Patriots move all the way up to the #4 pick trading with the Atlanta Falcons...my Patriots trade up to get a QB to sit behind Cam Newton up in Foxboro...we take Fields at 4


    5- JaMarr Chase (WR) (Bengals)
    6- Penei Sewell (OT) (Dolphins)
    7- Kyle Pitts (TE) (Lions)
    8- Rashawn Slater (OT) (Panthers)
    9- Trey Lance (QB) (Broncos)
    10- Christian Darrisaw (OT) (Cowboys)
    11- Patrick Surtain Jr (CB) (Giants)
    12- Jaylen Waddle (WR) (Eagles)
    13- Jaycee Horn (CB) (Chargers)
    14- Kwity Paye (EDGE) (Vikings)
    15- DeVonta Smith (WR) (Falcons via trade w/Patriots; move down to 15; DeVonta somehow slips to the Falcons at 15)


    16- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB) (Cardinals)
    17- Trevon Moehrig (S) (Raiders)
    18- Najee Harris (RB) (Dolphins)
    19- Greg Rousseau (EDGE) (Washington)
    20- Greg Newsome (CB) (Bears)
    21- Jaelan Philips (EDGE) (Colts)
    22- Rondale Moore (WR) (Titans)
    23- Caleb Farley (CB) (Jets)
    24- Davis Mills (QB) (Steelers)
    25- Kadarius Toney (WR) (Jaguars)
    26- Jayson Oweh (EDGE) (Browns)
    27- Asante Samuel Jr (CB) (Ravens)
    28- Zaven Collins (LB) (Saints)
    29- Nick Bolton (LB) (Packers)
    30- Landon Dickerson (C) (Bills)
    31- Terrace Marshall Jr (WR) (Chiefs)
    32- Christian Barmore (DL) (Buccaneers)
    I think youíre way off with Darrisaw to the Cowboys at 10. First, heís not even rated that high. The Cowboys insiders are saying they have 4 guys on their board they want 10. The four are Sewell, Slater, Surtain, and Horn (in that order). Jerry has Pitts ahead of them all but I donít know if Stephen and McClay feel the same way.


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